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Old 10-02-2012   #121
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I'm watching the 1st game (Bills/Jets) :

Mario is trying bull rush moves vs the Jets Ts. Every time he notices it DOESN'T work, he'd literally stop going. "**** it, I can't beat him". Stops fighting once his "move" didn't work. He beat #77 Austin Howard once, late in the 1st half.
I watched a highlight of the Patriots massacre, there was one play where the Pats ran away from him and he was disengaged from his blocker. Instead of hussling and trailing the play (you never know what can happen, fumble, anything) like "Big Earl" did with Kendall Wright.. He literally stood straight up, turned around, and just watched the RB run into the endzone. Mario Williams' motor sucks, there's a LOT of quit in that guy. Frankly I'm glad he's gone. I'd hate to see how he would've played here with a 100 million dollar contract.
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I watched a highlight of the Patriots massacre, there was one play where the Pats ran away from him and he was disengaged from his blocker. Instead of hussling and trailing the play (you never know what can happen, fumble, anything) like "Big Earl" did with Kendall Wright.. He literally stood straight up, turned around, and just watched the RB run into the endzone. Mario Williams' motor sucks, there's a LOT of quit in that guy. Frankly I'm glad he's gone. I'd hate to see how he would've played here with a 100 million dollar contract.
On the first drive vs. NYJ, he was stopping (like you said) and stood there like "nah, they got it".
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Check this thread out..

http://boards.buffalobills.com/showt...ht-to-be-angry

Bills fans ain't happy, they want a refund. After the 35-3 "Choke job" they deserve every misfortune that comes their team's way.
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Mario was more...active I'll say, in the games vs. KC and CLE. Had a few pressures. Nothing that would WOW you, but doing much more than the NYJ game. When it's available to me, I'll check the NE game.

EDIT: His sack vs. CLE, he got a good jump off the snap and basically went around the RT...kind of alluding to what folks were saying in this thread. Another thing...on that same drive, TE Ben Watson (smh) stonewalled Mario. That hurt to watch. Watson ain't even a good blocker.
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Mario was more...active I'll say, in the games vs. KC and CLE. Had a few pressures. Nothing that would WOW you, but doing much more than the NYJ game. When it's available to me, I'll check the NE game.

EDIT: His sack vs. CLE, he got a good jump off the snap and basically went around the RT...kind of alluding to what folks were saying in this thread. Another thing...on that same drive, TE Ben Watson (smh) stonewalled Mario. That hurt to watch. Watson ain't even a good blocker.

Unfortunate, Mario's only move to date has remained simply trying to run around the outside of the D. He has not seemed to effectively add any other moves in all his years in the league. And now with money in hand........he doesn't need to.
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Unfortunate, Mario's only move to date has remained simply trying to run around the outside of the D. He has not seemed to effectively add any other moves in all his years in the league. And now with money in hand........he doesn't need to.
You forgot his dreaded "steer rush" move.
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Unfortunate, Mario's only move to date has remained simply trying to run around the outside of the D. He has not seemed to effectively add any other moves in all his years in the league. And now with money in hand........he doesn't need to.
Jethro Franklin tried to motivate MW to learn new pass rush moves and make him go all out every play he was on the field.

Result: Franklin got fired. MW is a certified coach killer, how many DL coaches were here during MW time here? 3-4? That says something.

But, you continue on Fiddler/TK, you can throw up hypotheticals all you want. But the film doesn't lie.

A reincarnation of Vince Lombardi couldn't motivate MW into being the player he could be.

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Honestly, serves them right. I may be holding a petty grudge, but I remember when he signed with Buffalo it wasn't enough for their fans to be excited for the signing.

Even their own GM took one. I remember (either at a press conference or a radio interview) he mentioned how they'd use him where he "belongs," and never have him drop back in coverage (as if we used him almost extensively in coverage).

Mario isn't the only one to blame for this, I'm pretty sure Dave Wannstedt has a lot more to do with why they're struggling defensively, but it's still nice to see Bills fans complain after they dogged on Houston so much after getting Mario.
Which is ironic because after 4 games this season he as the same number of PD's as he did last year in about 4 1/2 games.

Buffalo is a FAIL on so many levels.
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But, you continue on Fiddler/TK, you can throw up hypotheticals all you want. But the film doesn't lie.
The "film" is subjective. Just like they're saying Arian makes it look effortless, but you see the 1600 rushing yards & you gotta give him his props. Mario may not "Look" like Jj Watt or Jared Allen, but he got results.
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The "film" is subjective. Just like they're saying Arian makes it look effortless, but you see the 1600 rushing yards & you gotta give him his props. Mario may not "Look" like Jj Watt or Jared Allen, but he got results.

Reminds me a lot of the idiocy one of our posters displayed defending Travis Johnson while he was here.

What a fool he was. (me)

Funny how people will sift through our past games to find one where MW made a play.

It is an exercise in futility to even try to compare MW to Watt.

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Did anyone catch the "Off The Mark" segment with Mark Schlereth on NFL Live yesterday?

He slammed Mario hard. Basically showed a bunch of play where Mario was getting dominated, including one where he couldn't even get past a TE. Mark asked what $100 million gets you. His answer? BLOCKED!! lol!
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Did anyone catch the "Off The Mark" segment with Mark Schlereth on NFL Live yesterday?
Stink is about as honest/straightforward as you can get.
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In that same segment, Mark also slammed Titan Leroy Harris for his remarks about JJ Watt. He did a little math and said that game times 16 would be 32 sacks for a season. His attitude about Harris was that he was basically a dumbass for saying anything about Watt when he was clearing being dominated by JJ.
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Reading the Bills MB is funny. Now they're going around comparing MW's first 4 games to Julius Peppers' first 4 games in Chicago and are using that as proof that MW is going to be a bad ass like Peppers. Those poor, poor people.
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Kinda weird watching this pan out, I'd excused the lesser performances from Mario all this time and I think a lot of people round here, myself included, made up excuses for him that weren't really there.

Hurts a bit to suddenly see it from an outside perspective and come to the realisation that this guy simply isn't putting the effort in, whether that be in training, on the field, in the film room, he's allowing his natural skills to just about get him by and not doing anything more than necessary.

Doubtless he'll have the odd big game here and there, especially on primetime, that will make his numbers look respectable for the season, but this guy should be up there with the likes of Peppers in sack numbers year in year out and isn't.
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In all honesty, it looks to me like that defensive coaching staff is not very good. They have some decently talented defensive guys on that roster and should be much better than they are.
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Eventually, Mario will dominate in one game (that the Bills would have won anyway against a bad team), get 4 sacks to total like 6 on the year....and then have a season ending injury...

THAT is Mario Williams.
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In all honesty, it looks to me like that defensive coaching staff is not very good. They have some decently talented defensive guys on that roster and should be much better than they are.
I do kind of see that side of the story. You could certainly say that was his reason for never dominating here either, he never got a decent DC to make use of him until his last 5 1/2 games in Houston.

I'll never ever think any less of a guy in his position taking the most money available to him in a short career, but he had the option to stay with the right DC for him OR he could have gone somewhere with another good DC and chose not to. Maybe his breakout last season was simply him playing for his fat contract. We may never find out.

Still I'd prefer to see him come good than carry on like this.
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In all honesty, it looks to me like that defensive coaching staff is not very good. They have some decently talented defensive guys on that roster and should be much better than they are.
Dave Wannstedt has always coached good to excellent defenses...he has a long resume of quality defensive production although he makes a miserable head coach.
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I was in the "let Mario walk" crowd and it's pretty much playing out like most of us suspected. Texans D chugs on, Mario struggles in Buffalo.

Really I thought it was crazy for anyone who has been paying attention to his on the field play to throw him that kind of cash. However, I knew someone would, thankfully it was Buffalo, whom I still hold a grudge against. So it worked out well.
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