Texans Cut...Beck

[Marcus]

He doesn't have us mesmerized. He simply showed what he's capable of. That's why he made the team. Why do you want to cut bait on him so fast?

[EllisUnit]

Originally Posted by HollaIFyaHEMI

This guy knows what he is talking about.

Now to the other debate. I think John Beck is a better QB than TJ Yates. I wish TJ hadn't gotten the chance to finish off last season because he is a waste of a roster spot. John Beck would give us a chance against elite defenses, and he is perfect for the bootleg. TJ Yates is good for nothing but checkdowns and INTs.

Hmmmm not sure if this is serious or not

[Rey]

Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

I think Trindon's preseason production has you guys mesmerized.

You can call it what you want to call it, but I'll just say you're wrong here. Makes 0 sense to cut trindon at this point.

Not gonna respond to the rest of the post and I'll leave it at that.

[GP]

Merciless will benefit from not being pressured into having to be as dominant "right out of the gate" as Texans rookie 1st rounders had traditionally been forced into.

Tate? I think he's nearing the stage in his development that he could challenge Foster as #1. Why? Foster's new diet is killing his Sundays. Period. Nobody has yet to respond to my comments on it and that's because they know it's true. It was a neat theory--Can a dominating NFL RB like Foster go all plant-based and still dominate? Nope.

Tate is no slouch. Foster needs to scale back and try vegan every other day and normal every other day. Give us your absolute best even if it means shelving a personal agenda.

Barwin needs to finish the year out, let's see him in a full 16+ games. If Foster falls off any more than he is already, give Tate more snaps.

Holiday? I don't like him on the 53, I understand "why" though, and yet I also want him playing out the full season. In playoffs? Manning or Forsett on returns, no ifs ands or buts...but Kubiak won't do that (see: Jacoby playing return man the ENTIRE Ravens playoff game last year).

[Marcus]

Originally Posted by GP

Foster's new diet is killing his Sundays. Period. Nobody has yet to respond to my comments on it and that's because they know it's true.

Or rather, your comments on it are so ridiculously absurd, nobody feels like dignifying them with a response.

Uh .. Yeah. I think that's it.

(Would you PLEASE stop pulling sh!t out of your ass?)

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by GP

Tate? I think he's nearing the stage in his development that he could challenge Foster as #1. Why? Foster's new diet is killing his Sundays. Period. Nobody has yet to respond to my comments on it and that's because they know it's true. It was a neat theory--Can a dominating NFL RB like Foster go all plant-based and still dominate? Nope.

Tate is no slouch. Foster needs to scale back and try vegan every other day and normal every other day. Give us your absolute best even if it means shelving a personal agenda.

Foster averages 3.7 ypc on 103 carries.

Tate averages 3.9 ypc on 30 carries,.

In short yardage situation (3rd or 4th and 2 or less and goal line situation), Foster was used 19 times, Tate 4.

We know that in these situations, quite often, it's more difficult to gain much yardage since the defense stacks the line.

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

And the problem with that is...?

If we're ranked 30th in yards per kickoff return and 17th in yards per punt return, what good is our return specialist?

You and I generally agree on football related stuff .... but I gotta chime in here:


What value does Tricycle have if we are ranked X .... Shielding Manning from those duties. That safety tandem .... Just aint replacable.


Tricycle might not be near the top of the league right now ..... but he's a big play waiting to happen .... all while keeping starters out of harms way.


Are we really 30th in YP KO return as of today ?! ..... Care to make a friendly wager of a few beers that we move into no lower than the top 20 by seasons end ?!

[76Texan]

Some NFL players that are vegans include G Deuce Lutui (Seahawks), FB Tony Fiammetta (Pats), RB Ricky Williams (formerly with the Dolphins).

Robert Parish, Boston Celtics Center has been a vegan for a long time; so are HOF Bill Walton (a real banger at Center) and PFW John Salley.

Baseball great Hank Aaron was a vegan. I think he had 755 career home runs.

Former QB Joe Namath was a vegan.
Once he was asked the question and provided the following answer:
“I have been a vegetarian for a few years. Fred Dryer (DE) of the Rams has been one for ten years. It shows you don’t need meat to play football.”

Martial art legend Bruce Lee was a vegan; so is Chuck Norris.

Some light are shed here for those who might be interested:
http://www.pcrm.org/search/?cid=251

[kiwitexansfan]

Billion dollar football business would make sure all the dietary requirements were met vegetarian or not.

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by GP

Merciless will benefit from not being pressured into having to be as dominant "right out of the gate" as Texans rookie 1st rounders had traditionally been forced into.

Tate? I think he's nearing the stage in his development that he could challenge Foster as #1. Why? Foster's new diet is killing his Sundays. Period. Nobody has yet to respond to my comments on it and that's because they know it's true. It was a neat theory--Can a dominating NFL RB like Foster go all plant-based and still dominate? Nope.

Tate is no slouch. Foster needs to scale back and try vegan every other day and normal every other day. Give us your absolute best even if it means shelving a personal agenda.

Barwin needs to finish the year out, let's see him in a full 16+ games. If Foster falls off any more than he is already, give Tate more snaps.

Holiday? I don't like him on the 53, I understand "why" though, and yet I also want him playing out the full season. In playoffs? Manning or Forsett on returns, no ifs ands or buts...but Kubiak won't do that (see: Jacoby playing return man the ENTIRE Ravens playoff game last year).

I thought this had been put to bed by TPN and other guys who ARE vegan in other threads (and no, I ain't gonna look them up EDIT: Okay I DID go look some up; they're mostly in the Arian turns Vegan thread). I'm pretty sure they said that one can get plenty of good protein from plant-based sources. I believe others chimed in with examples of other successful athletes that were various levels of vegetarian/vegan. Then Doc said this...

A diet high in animal protein is known to be harmful (many would say disastrous) to our health, while a plant-based (vegan) diet prevents disease and is restorative to our health. This is re-inforced with a myriad of peer-reviewed scientific medical studies/trials. Even the very conservative ADA (American Dietetic Association) released a Position Satement :

Quote:
Vegetarian diets are often associated with a number of health advantages, including lower blood cholesterol levels, lower risk of heart disease, lower blood pressure levels, and lower risk of hypertension and type 2 diabetes. Vegetarians tend to have a lower body mass index (BMI) and lower overall cancer rates.
[Full Position Paper-http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-aru070109.php]

No one is trying to force anyone into a specific type of diet.....just presenting such with well-known and scientifically established benefits.
I sincerely invite you or anyone else to enjoy your steaks, but please don’t make outlandish statements against those that have chosen, for whatever reasons, to incorporate some very simple, well-established healthful principles.

That was good enough for me. You must be ignoring the responses that disspell this anti-vegan assertion. I KNOW they are out there.

[Vinnie]

Originally Posted by SAMURAITEXAN

Why? Demps is not on IR. why do we need cut someone when Demps returns?

Go Texans!!!

I was just going on the assumption Koob would want his third string QB back on the roster.

To all yall thinking Trin would be snatched up by some team, seriously? Homey spent the entire season on special teams last year and guess where he went? No where. Preseason mesmerization to be sure.

[HOU-TEX]

Originally Posted by Corrosion

You and I generally agree on football related stuff .... but I gotta chime in here:


What value does Tricycle have if we are ranked X .... Shielding Manning from those duties. That safety tandem .... Just aint replacable.


Tricycle might not be near the top of the league right now ..... but he's a big play waiting to happen .... all while keeping starters out of harms way.


Are we really 30th in YP KO return as of today ?! ..... Care to make a friendly wager of a few beers that we move into no lower than the top 20 by seasons end ?!

You wouldn't want to give K-Mart a shot? He looked comfortable returning for MSU. I like Trindon and truly hope he eventually breaks out. It just bugs me using a roster spot for a one trick pony. Heck, it took me a while to get used to having a LS taking a spot.

Side note: At least Weeks ain't scared to do work on ST coverage. I've seen ya Weeks

[buddyboy]

Originally Posted by 76Texan

Foster averages 3.7 ypc on 103 carries.

Tate averages 3.9 ypc on 30 carries,.

In short yardage situation (3rd or 4th and 2 or less and goal line situation), Foster was used 19 times, Tate 4.

We know that in these situations, quite often, it's more difficult to gain much yardage since the defense stacks the line.

This stat is telling. Both of our backs have dropped in production this year, most likely due to either defenses keying in on it (allowing our air attack to flourish in the first 4 games) or because our two new starters still need time to either develop or gel with the rest of the line.

It's strange to take the two changes: change in offensive line and change in Arian's diet, along with the statistical evidence of the ENTIRE running attack struggling, and point to Arian's diet as the reason.

[Ryan]

We're not being creative with our running plays at all. It seems like we're running 95% stretch plays and the other 5% is a power run on 3rd down and 1. I want to see more pitches, draws, counters, something. Our running game hasn't looked this bad since 2009 and you can't use the same recipes you used when you had road graders like Winston and Brisiel.

[infantrycak]

Originally Posted by GP

Tate? I think he's nearing the stage in his development that he could challenge Foster as #1. Why? Foster's new diet is killing his Sundays. Period. Nobody has yet to respond to my comments on it and that's because they know it's true. It was a neat theory--Can a dominating NFL RB like Foster go all plant-based and still dominate? Nope.

Well first off it is because your theory is absurd. Then there is the fact you have no knowledge on the subject and very knowledgeable people such have CnD have previously explained your position is wrong. So don't bother with the "nobody is responding to me, whoohoo I win" proclamations.

[beerlover]

Was just checking out transaction wire to see if Beck had been signed by another team & noticed Patriots have cut Thomas Austin (C) practice squad. Might Texans bring him back? Since he is technically a free agent couldn't they place him on our practice squad without using a roster spot?

Practice Squad

# NAME POS. HT. WT. AGE EXP. COLLEGE
72 Hunter, David NT 6-2 303 23 R Houston
64 Johnson, Delano OLB 6-4 280 24 R Bowie State
7 Keenum, Case QB 6-1 209 24 R Houston
15 Maehl, Jeff WR 6-0 185 23 1 Oregon
30 Meggett, Davin RB 5-8 215 22 R Maryland
35 Pleasant, Eddie SS 5-10 210 23 R Oregon
48 Supernaw, Phillip TE 6-5 250 22 R Ouachita Baptist
67 White, Cody G 6-3 301 24 R Illinois State

[The Pencil Neck]

Originally Posted by 76Texan

Some NFL players that are vegans include G Deuce Lutui (Seahawks), FB Tony Fiammetta (Pats), RB Ricky Williams (formerly with the Dolphins).

Robert Parish, Boston Celtics Center has been a vegan for a long time; so are HOF Bill Walton (a real banger at Center) and PFW John Salley.

Baseball great Hank Aaron was a vegan. I think he had 755 career home runs.

Former QB Joe Namath was a vegan.
Once he was asked the question and provided the following answer:
“I have been a vegetarian for a few years. Fred Dryer (DE) of the Rams has been one for ten years. It shows you don’t need meat to play football.”

Martial art legend Bruce Lee was a vegan; so is Chuck Norris.

Some light are shed here for those who might be interested:
http://www.pcrm.org/search/?cid=251

Vegan and vegetarian are not the same thing. Not even from the diet standpoint. Veganism is much more intense -- no dairy, no honey, etc., etc.

Sometimes people use the term "vegetarian" to really mean just not eating beef -- which is wrong. So you get people who are ovo-lacto vegetarians (who eat eggs and dairy products), etc. But Veganism is a stand against animals being used for any sort of production of anything. My Vegan bodybuilder friend puts it like this: nothing with a face or that came from something with a face. So things like white Flour that use bits of animal bone in the bleaching process can't be eaten. All dairy is out. Honey is out because the bees are being exploited.

A great example of a Vegetarian with some muscle is Bill Pearl. He is not, however, a Vegan to the best of my knowledge. I doubt Joe Namath and Dwyer, etc., are Vegans. I think they're just vegetarians. Which has a lot more leeway.

[The Pencil Neck]

Originally Posted by Corrosion

You and I generally agree on football related stuff .... but I gotta chime in here:


What value does Tricycle have if we are ranked X .... Shielding Manning from those duties. That safety tandem .... Just aint replacable.


Tricycle might not be near the top of the league right now ..... but he's a big play waiting to happen .... all while keeping starters out of harms way.


Are we really 30th in YP KO return as of today ?! ..... Care to make a friendly wager of a few beers that we move into no lower than the top 20 by seasons end ?!

While Manning is probably the best option for kickoff returns, what about Forsett? Even KEO could have us at #30 overall in kickoff returns.

I hope that Holliday does find a way to make it happen. I'm just saying that I've seen none of that greatness when the real bullets are flying. We need to get more production out of our return game and if our specialist isn't doing it, stick someone else back there.

And I don't bet.

[speedfreek]

The world needs more vegans!

(leaves more of the good stuff for me.. BBQ, bacon, etc. etc.)

TJ

[CloakNNNdagger]

Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

Vegan and vegetarian are not the same thing. Not even from the diet standpoint. Veganism is much more intense -- no dairy, no honey, etc., etc.

Sometimes people use the term "vegetarian" to really mean just not eating beef -- which is wrong. So you get people who are ovo-lacto vegetarians (who eat eggs and dairy products), etc. But Veganism is a stand against animals being used for any sort of production of anything. My Vegan bodybuilder friend puts it like this: nothing with a face or that came from something with a face. So things like white Flour that use bits of animal bone in the bleaching process can't be eaten. All dairy is out. Honey is out because the bees are being exploited.

A great example of a Vegetarian with some muscle is Bill Pearl. He is not, however, a Vegan to the best of my knowledge. I doubt Joe Namath and Dwyer, etc., are Vegans. I think they're just vegetarians. Which has a lot more leeway.

Namath, Dryer, Bruce Lee, Chuck Norris.......all vegetarian. However, an example of a true vegan is Jon Fitch, who at age 34 at is the #5 MMA welterweight competitor in the world, with only 4 losses to his name. In an episode of Myth Busters which some of you may have caught, the team wanted to test whether a person could punch their way out of a coffin. For his part, Fitch laid on his back and punched up into a sensor. With only 3 inches of before contact, sensors measured Fitch’s punch at 1,450 pounds of force. In other words, it would be preferable to get hit in the face with a sledgehammer which would generate 1000 pounds of force.