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Old 10-03-2012   #41
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I don't like this.
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Please make titles complete so they can be searched and people are less likely to create redundant threads.
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I don't like this.
Why not ? Who contributes less on game day than a 3rd string QB ??

(Cant really say that during the week as he may be (most likely is) the scout team QB .... Unless you are playing Tebow.)
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Yates has not played as well.
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Old news, already a thread for that.
I was afraid of that. I scanned the thread titles, but I guess my eyes aren't what they used to be at the ripe old age of 35.

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Yates has not played as well.
Nope. That's my concern too.
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He's handed the ball off once this season.
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And very much more likely to be available than Holliday if he were released.
Holliday would be snatched up like a hot cake. Anyone who thinks he wouldn't, or that we should even cut him in the first place, knows nothing about football.
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He's handed the ball off once this season.
Preseason either.
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I'll take TJ over Beck every time.
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Yates has not played as well.
Neither has Beck ever...in the regular season
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Holliday would be snatched up like a hot cake. Anyone who thinks he wouldn't, or that we should even cut him in the first place, knows nothing about football.
And the problem with that is...?

If we're ranked 30th in yards per kickoff return and 17th in yards per punt return, what good is our return specialist?

I would love for Trindon to start breaking some returns. That would make us even more dangerous. But so far, he's looking like a pre-season wonder. Every spot on the 53 is important and if he's not giving us anything, we could use his spot for more depth somewhere else.
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And the problem with that is...?

If we're ranked 30th in yards per kickoff return and 17th in yards per punt return, what good is our return specialist?

I would love for Trindon to start breaking some returns. That would make us even more dangerous. But so far, he's looking like a pre-season wonder. Every spot on the 53 is important and if he's not giving us anything, we could use his spot for more depth somewhere else.
That's like saying since our running game hasn't quite clicked yet we should find better RB's.

It's not all on Trindon. He's made his fair share of mistakes, but I've noticed a lot of times he has a bunch of guys right in his. And he's made guys miss, but multiple guys?

Give him a good lane and he'll get a good return.

Now his decision making on punts is something totally different. I think if the coaches felt like Trindon was all of a sudden not running like he should be then he'd have been gone. But I don't think that's the case.
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True, but if we can get the same production with any schlep back there than that makes him expendable. I'm assuming when Demps is healed they'll let Troy go again and we would be able to pick Trin back up. I don't think his body of work to this point would have teams clamoring to pick him up if he were cut.
Why? Demps is not on IR. why do we need cut someone when Demps returns?

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That's like saying since our running game hasn't quite clicked yet we should find better RB's.

It's not all on Trindon. He's made his fair share of mistakes, but I've noticed a lot of times he has a bunch of guys right in his. And he's made guys miss, but multiple guys?

Give him a good lane and he'll get a good return.

Now his decision making on punts is something totally different. I think if the coaches felt like Trindon was all of a sudden not running like he should be then he'd have been gone. But I don't think that's the case.
He's a specialist. There are other guys on this team who could give us the production we've gotten out of him so far. And maybe more.

If he doesn't start producing, why keep him?
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Trindon Holliday made the team when he ran back 3 TDs in the preseason. So now, since he hasn't run one back after only 4 games in the regular season, you want to give up on him????

Good thing none of you actually make any of the team's decisions. Else you'd most likely would have cut KJax after his rookie year.
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He's a specialist. There are other guys on this team who could give us the production we've gotten out of him so far. And maybe more.

If he doesn't start producing, why keep him?


Ben Tate could have probably done what Arian has done so far this season if he was given those same touches, but Arian has shown that he is capable of doing things that Tate can't, even though he hasn't really done it yet this year...

Just because you have guys that could do what another guy has done so far doesn't mean you should replace said player. Merciless could have given us the production Connor Barwin has given us so far...Do you think he should be replaced right now?
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And the thing is: we have the luxury to keep a specialist. Our first and second teamers are so good, that we don't absolutely need that spot for somebody else.

Holliday has the ability to be special. He just needs to get his nerves in check and get the right running lane. He can be a different maker for us - and he keeps our starters (Manning) from being injured on returns.

On a stacked team like ours Holliday is well worth a roster spot...
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That's like saying since our running game hasn't quite clicked yet we should find better RB's.

It's not all on Trindon. He's made his fair share of mistakes, but I've noticed a lot of times he has a bunch of guys right in his. And he's made guys miss, but multiple guys?

Give him a good lane and he'll get a good return.

Now his decision making on punts is something totally different. I think if the coaches felt like Trindon was all of a sudden not running like he should be then he'd have been gone. But I don't think that's the case.
This guy knows what he is talking about.

Now to the other debate. I think John Beck is a better QB than TJ Yates. I wish TJ hadn't gotten the chance to finish off last season because he is a waste of a roster spot. John Beck would give us a chance against elite defenses, and he is perfect for the bootleg. TJ Yates is good for nothing but checkdowns and INTs.
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This guy knows what he is talking about.

Now to the other debate. I think John Beck is a better QB than TJ Yates. I wish TJ hadn't gotten the chance to finish off last season because he is a waste of a roster spot. John Beck would give us a chance against elite defenses, and he is perfect for the bootleg. TJ Yates is good for nothing but checkdowns and INTs.
It was TJ's first year man. On top of it he was a 5th round project. Nobody expected him to do great. He did well with the chance he got. I expect him to get better over the years.
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Ben Tate could have probably done what Arian has done so far this season if he was given those same touches, but Arian has shown that he is capable of doing things that Tate can't, even though he hasn't really done it yet this year...

Just because you have guys that could do what another guy has done so far doesn't mean you should replace said player. Merciless could have given us the production Connor Barwin has given us so far...Do you think he should be replaced right now?
First, I don't think that Mercilus can give us or do what Connor Barwin has. I don't think Ben Tate is as good as Arian Foster. If they were better, then I'd want them playing instead of those guys.

I think Danieal Manning is a better kick returner than Trindon Holliday. I think Justin Forsett is a better kick returner than Trindon Holliday. I think Shiloh Keo could give us what Trindon Holliday has given us AND allow us to keep another player on the 53 who could help us depth and development wise.

Comparing Trindon -- a guy who has done absolutely zilch in the regular season so far -- to Arian Foster, Ben Tate, or Connor Barwin is kinda ridiculous. That's like comparing Alan Ball to Johnathon Joseph.

I think Trindon's preseason production has you guys mesmerized.
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