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**PapaL** · 10-01-2012

Would it be terribly inappropriate to yell "Your Mom?" here?

thunderkyss · 10-01-2012

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Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

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"Where's the weak spot for the Ravens game? That's the one to be talking about. Or the Pats.

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And that's kinda the point. The Pats had 2 RBs go over 100 yards yesterday and the Ravens have Ray Rice.

If we have a weakness against the run, we're going to be exposed against those teams.

I doubt we play the same game against the Ravens or the Pats. Last year, our defense wasn't that great against the run either, still we managed to hold Ray Rice, MjD & a whole host of other RBs. Until yesterday, we went 8 consecutive games without allowing a 100 yard rusher & that included 2 play-off games.

Normally when you open a lead like we had, you'd expect them to throw the ball, that's our M.O. that's when we've got them where we want them... pin our ears back & all that jazz. That didn't happen yesterday. They found out they couldn't throw the ball against us, so they just ran & ran & ran & ran the clock out.

We put the JV team in halfway through the 4th Qtr.... for all of Chris Johnson's running, they got 1 touch down. that's it, 7 points. No field goals, no big 20 yard CJ2k runs.

I'm sure they're going to spend a lot of time in the film room & figure out how to stop the run with the front 7..... in nickel situations.

run-david-run · 10-01-2012

I think all we need to know about our run D can be learned from watching the two goal line plays against the Broncos after the ridiculous PI call on Kareem in the end zone.
When we're playing the run, we turn 1st and goal at the one into 3rd and 6.

You're not going to take everything away from an NFL offense. We've seen teams try to do it to us and it leads to AJ walking into the endzone or death of a thousand 8 yards check downs.

The Ravens and Bears will be better tests of our run D, but in this league, with this team, as long as we're decent against the run and keep up our dominance in the passing game (and our 20 point leads), we're picking the right poison.

HJam72 · 10-02-2012

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Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

1. Spelling.
2. Punctuation.

"Where's the weak spot for the Ravens game? That's the one to be talking about. Or the Pats.

"

And that's kinda the point. The Pats had 2 RBs go over 100 yards yesterday and the Ravens have Ray Rice.

If we have a weakness against the run, we're going to be exposed against those teams.

miter saw tell them you "could care less"

HJam72 · 10-02-2012

Regarding the main subject here, I just agree with others that CJ3yearsAgo got a lot of garbage stats. Go ahead and run the whole 2nd half and burn clock when you're losing to us by too much. We're fine with that.

We do seem to have a weakness regarding the run up the middle, but we are the number 1 overall D right now and this is the time in the NFL where, if you're going to have a weakness, that's the one to put up with. We sure don't want to have any weaknesses in our pass D. So, we're not the best D ever. We don't have to be, because we do have an offense.

Speedy · 10-02-2012

Only team in the NFL that hasn't given up a rushing TD - Houston Texans.

HJam72 · 10-02-2012

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Originally Posted by Speedy

Only team in the NFL that hasn't given up a rushing TD - Houston Texans.

I didn't know that. Maybe we are just not focused on the run at times, but do just fine when we are.

I don't know, but I'm a lot more worried about this team staying healthy.

**Thorn** · 10-02-2012

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Originally Posted by HJam72

I didn't know that. Maybe we are just not focused on the run at times, but do just fine when we are.

I don't know, but I'm a lot more worried about this team staying healthy.

I'm always worried about injuries. But mostly what I worry about is always the next game. I don't care if we are supposed to beat the jets by a gazallion points, I still worry.

HJam72 · 10-02-2012

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Originally Posted by Thorn

I'm always worried about injuries. But mostly what I worry about is always the next game. I don't care if we are supposed to beat the jets by a gazallion points, I still worry.

We could definitely lose to the Jets on the road, but 4-1 is no nightmare. If it happens, it might teach our guys some kind of valuable lesson and be worth the 1 loss.

KA4Texan · 10-02-2012

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Originally Posted by HJam72

We could definitely lose to the Jets on the road, but 4-1 is no nightmare. If it happens, it might teach our guys some kind of valuable lesson and be worth the 1 loss.

Agreed, but only if they lose focus would the loss be "worth it".

After all, they need to be at least twice as good as the "other guy"

Not for our town, not for the fans..... although God knows we in Houston need it.

But for themselves..... no matter how good they looked last season.

it was TAKEN from them due to PM being down.

in order for them to CLAIM what they have worked so hard for they have to do it twice as good as anyone else, to prove to the nation the lack PM is irrelevant to the success of these Texans.

**drs23** · 10-02-2012

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Originally Posted by HJam72

We could definitely lose to the Jets on the road, but 4-1 is no nightmare. If it happens, it might teach our guys some kind of valuable lesson and be worth the 1 loss.

Perhaps to another team but not the STINKIN' JETS and their toe suckin' lypo banded, blow hard (get my point?) coach!

**TejasTom** · 10-02-2012

Our D is ranked 1st in total yards and points. A few runs up the middle aren't going to kill us.

Posted using Tapatalk from my phone. May contain errors.

CloakNNNdagger · 10-02-2012

Impressive state.

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Nick Scurfield ‏@NickScurfield

#Texans rank 1st in @nfl in point differential (+17.5/game). Next-best team: Falcons, +12.0/game

GP · 10-02-2012

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Originally Posted by drs23

Perhaps to another team but not the STINKIN' JETS and their toe suckin' lypo banded, blow hard (get my point?) coach!

That just about sums it up....

**LondonTex** · 10-02-2012

I'm still quite new to all this but these Texans rock!! I so enjoy watching them kick butts each week...I know the tough times will come but at the minute I'm just enjoying what I'm seeing

The Pencil Neck · 10-02-2012

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Originally Posted by LondonTex

I'm still quite new to all this but these Texans rock!! I so enjoy watching them kick butts each week...I know the tough times will come but at the minute I'm just enjoying what I'm seeing

Soak it all in, man. Soak it all in.

**LondonTex** · 10-02-2012

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Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

Soak it all in, man. Soak it all in.

can't wait for the Jets game

**TejasTom** · 10-02-2012

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Originally Posted by LondonTex

I'm still quite new to all this but these Texans rock!! I so enjoy watching them kick butts each week...I know the tough times will come but at the minute I'm just enjoying what I'm seeing

The tough times have passed!

There were seasons when we didn't have this many wins.

**kiwitexansfan** · 10-03-2012

I think the elephant in the room is our crappy special teams.

Our return game has looked ordinary at best, and our kicking game is plagued by noodle leg Graham and his inability to kick from distance.

The old saying is special teams win championships, does anyone really think we have championship quality special teams?

thunderkyss · 10-03-2012

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Originally Posted by LondonTex

I'm still quite new to all this but these Texans rock!! I so enjoy watching them kick butts each week...I know the tough times will come but at the minute I'm just enjoying what I'm seeing

I think the tough times are upon us. Used to be, when we punted the ball (which happened a lot) you could go get some concessions, take a bathroom break, smoke a cigarette, & make a quick pass through one of the novelty shops, then get back to your seats on time to watch the offense.

Now that the defense is just as exciting to watch, if not more... you pretty much have to get all that done before kick-off.

10-01-2012	#81
PapaL Loose Screw Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Maryland Age: 32 Posts: 8,764 Rep Power: 17440	Would it be terribly inappropriate to yell "Your Mom?" here? __________________ Tried and true, I'm rep'in Texan (Steel) Blue.

10-01-2012	#83
run-david-run Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The University of Texas Age: 24 Posts: 3,370 Rep Power: 1329	Re: Can we talk about the big fat elephant in the room for a second... I think all we need to know about our run D can be learned from watching the two goal line plays against the Broncos after the ridiculous PI call on Kareem in the end zone. When we're playing the run, we turn 1st and goal at the one into 3rd and 6. You're not going to take everything away from an NFL offense. We've seen teams try to do it to us and it leads to AJ walking into the endzone or death of a thousand 8 yards check downs. The Ravens and Bears will be better tests of our run D, but in this league, with this team, as long as we're decent against the run and keep up our dominance in the passing game (and our 20 point leads), we're picking the right poison. __________________ Andre Johnson is The Answer

10-02-2012	#85
HJam72 Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Over here. Age: 40 Posts: 10,502 Rep Power: 18621	Re: Can we talk about the big fat elephant in the room for a second... Regarding the main subject here, I just agree with others that CJ3yearsAgo got a lot of garbage stats. Go ahead and run the whole 2nd half and burn clock when you're losing to us by too much. We're fine with that. We do seem to have a weakness regarding the run up the middle, but we are the number 1 overall D right now and this is the time in the NFL where, if you're going to have a weakness, that's the one to put up with. We sure don't want to have any weaknesses in our pass D. So, we're not the best D ever. We don't have to be, because we do have an offense. __________________

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Speedy Yeller Dweller Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Livable Forest Section: 547 - Row A - Dark Side Posts: 2,866 Rep Power: 9713	Re: Can we talk about the big fat elephant in the room for a second... Only team in the NFL that hasn't given up a rushing TD - Houston Texans. __________________ *thatsbulltailgaters.net*

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TejasTom Coach Cush Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Pearland Section: Brazos Suite Posts: 972 Rep Power: 10148	Our D is ranked 1st in total yards and points. A few runs up the middle aren't going to kill us. Posted using Tapatalk from my phone. May contain errors. __________________ "...and I'm all out of bubble gum!"

10-02-2012	#95
LondonTex Site Contributor Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 282 Rep Power: 3604	Re: Can we talk about the big fat elephant in the room for a second... I'm still quite new to all this but these Texans rock!! I so enjoy watching them kick butts each week...I know the tough times will come but at the minute I'm just enjoying what I'm seeing

10-03-2012	#99
kiwitexansfan Bring Him Back Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Age: 35 Posts: 7,904 Rep Power: 7242	Re: Can we talk about the big fat elephant in the room for a second... I think the elephant in the room is our crappy special teams. Our return game has looked ordinary at best, and our kicking game is plagued by noodle leg Graham and his inability to kick from distance. The old saying is special teams win championships, does anyone really think we have championship quality special teams? __________________ All random posts made entirely of smilies courtesy of kiwitexansfanjr -age 4

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