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Old 10-01-2012   #21
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Exactly. I have to explain this every week.

"WHY ARE THEY RUNNING THE BALL! WHY!?!?!"
"Umm...because it's 3rd and 11 on our own 5 yard line?"

Also I think Kubes has handled it well. One thing I am noticing against lesser opponents is very conservative playcalling. He knows that the only way we lose to the Titans or Jags is by beating ourselves. Against the Broncos though he aired it out. I'm expecting the same old conservative playcalling against the Jets since...their offense is not going to beat us, but if you give their offense short fields and turn over the ball then any team can beat you on any sunday.
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If morons want to boo 3rd and forever inside your own 10 draw plays, it just shows lack of football knowledge.

It's the same with 3rd and goal from the 20 after penalties. Just what the **** can you run? Unless it's everyone on go routes, you can forget it. Game isn't on the line.

Boo if you want, but like booing Carlos Beltran...it's getting old.
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Meh. I guess this is what it's like to have a completely dominating team.

We get the AFC South Blogger making a big deal of it, and we get fans on here arguing about it. Nice problems to have, I'd say.

I wasn't happy with the play calling there, and I never am in that situation, because we end up giving the other team the ball with a short field. We take a stop that our defense gave us, and we make our guys go right back onto the field and expect them to do it again or something, I suppose.

That sucks for Wade and his guys. To make a stop, and then to have Gary go turtle because he's scared of turning the ball over near our own EZ.

I guess the defense needs to just let a few scores go, make Gary have to play catch-up the rest of the game. I bet there wouldn't be the predictable go-turtle formation and play calling if we get pinned deep. Right?

Boo'ing is what it is, and people need to quit acting holier-than-thou about it. It's just a noise. BFD.
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Thats the bottom line .... The odds of converting that 3rd and a mile are slim. Rather give up on a drive than give up a safety , a possession and the field position associated with a free kick or a blocked punt for recovered for a TD.

The consequences of either a safety or a recovery for a TD can change the entire course of a game.

Safe plays in that situation are limited to draws and screens really .... And they do have the potential to be successful on occasion tho the odds are against it.
Agreed. They only way the tits win that game is if the Texans turn the ball over and give the tits free points. I am 100% on Kubiak's side in getting some breathing room for his punter, getting the ball out of our end of the field, and trusting the defense to hold the tacks from scoring.
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I was reading the recap and PK from ESPN said fans were booing the team when they were only up 7 and the play calling from deep in their own territory wasn't to their liking.

Whats up with that?

A 3-0 team thats winning and we're getting booed?
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Eh...there was a time where we weren't showing any signs of moving the ball. The team needed a kick in the ass...that's all.
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I don't know when it happened, but it seems to happen way too often for my liking - Kubiak calls a draw play on 3rd and 15+ on our side of the field. I mean, does he have a super secret stash of tapes the rest of us never experienced where that play works? And so he keeps calling it? It's a give-up play, and everyone knows it. He just calls it to get a few yards to get some room for the punter. Tactically sound or not, it pisses off fans.

No idea if that was where he got booed. I don't remember any boos. But if there were any, that's my first bet on when/why they happened.
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I think that was the reason why. As far as that play goes, I'm not a fan of it either. But it seems like every single team in the NFL runs a draw play in that situation as well. I've watched many games this year and when a team is in 3rd and very long, they'll run a draw.
What sense would it make to run 4 wides when the defense knows you have to pass and have their dime package on the field and their pass rush specialists in the front 5?? Maybe you catch them selling out for the pass rush and pick up the 15... Orrrrr... maybe you're setting them up for something totally different in the second half when that down/distance situ comes up again.

Just a guess.

I'm not going to squabble with individual play calls when we're 4-0 and have been up by 20+ on everyone we've played so far.
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Happened in the Miami game too. Makes the rest of us look like a bunch of Philly fans.
Miami game was totally different.

I didn't boo, but I shared their sentiment, the team looked flat & incompetent when those boos came out.

Yesterday, it wasn't the whole stadium. It was like it started & the boo birds understood their sentiments weren't as popular as they thought & it stopped pretty quick.

We (I was involved) bood the refs at least twice that I can remember. Martin's first down play, where they tried to rob us & the punt where the Titan touched the ball 7 yards ahead of where the refs originally spotted it.

My thoughts, if you really don't like the boo birds, go to the game & shut them up.
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I don't think you have to be a die hard fan to say "Your team is good. Quit booing them."
First, I don't think they were booing the team. I think they were booing the coach, the play calling. Not just that one, but that whole series.

We expect better (I wasn't booing but I agreed with them). Bottom line.

We're not asking anyone to do anything stupid & as safe as the play calling was back into our own end-zone, it still could have been better. We looked like the Jaguars on that series.... no, the Jags would have probably got out of that situation.
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My thoughts, if you really don't like the boo birds, go to the game & shut them up.
Your solution is for me to attend the game and attempt to quiet thousands of booing fans?
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Perhaps they were "mooo'ing"? You know, getting into the spirit of bulls on parade and all.

Personally, if there were boo's, I think it was a chump move on those fans. But, that's just my opinion, and they paid their money and have the right to be chump fans all they want.
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People like to complain more than they like to be happy.
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I was more aggravated at morons trying to start the wave while we are on offense...again.
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People like to complain more than they like to be happy.
yep, and we've been conditioned by it.

It's been a long, long time since this city had a football team that we could EXPECT to win, and that feeling is new to a lot of folks around this town, as well. Early '90's were the last time that I can remember believing that my football team could win every game.
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First, I don't think they were booing the team. I think they were booing the coach, the play calling. Not just that one, but that whole series.

We expect better (I wasn't booing but I agreed with them). Bottom line.

We're not asking anyone to do anything stupid & as safe as the play calling was back into our own end-zone, it still could have been better. We looked like the Jaguars on that series.... no, the Jags would have probably got out of that situation.
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Exactly. I have to explain this every week.

"WHY ARE THEY RUNNING THE BALL! WHY!?!?!"
"Umm...because it's 3rd and 11 on our own 5 yard line?"

Also I think Kubes has handled it well. One thing I am noticing against lesser opponents is very conservative playcalling. He knows that the only way we lose to the Titans or Jags is by beating ourselves. Against the Broncos though he aired it out. I'm expecting the same old conservative playcalling against the Jets since...their offense is not going to beat us, but if you give their offense short fields and turn over the ball then any team can beat you on any sunday.
I'll buy this and I bet you we will see a much different look against the likes of GB, Baltimore and N.E. and to a lesser extent, Chicago and Detroit. I think Kubes has some tricks up his sleave he just won't expose until playoffs, plays he's probably used before, but hoping teams have long since forgotten about and maybe a few new gems. In my opinion, we have still been very vanilla against our first 4 opponents. TBH, I think Kubes would rather take an L against a team, then show a potential come back series of plays useful for a playoff type situation. We shall see.

Hey, 4-0 is great, but we really haven't played anyone yet. Although, I can imagine the 2010 Texans would be 2-2 right now and even the 2011 Texans might be looking at 3-1. I think we drop that game in Denver if it's not THIS year's team and I think the 2010 team drops it to the Titans once they brought it to within 7.

I love the focus and general TEAM attitude these guys have. No one complains about touches or how many downs they play, they just get it done. I freaking love this team and what they have built. Houston may not have the flashiest franchises, but they always build franchises you can be proud of.
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Miami game was totally different.

I didn't boo, but I shared their sentiment, the team looked flat & incompetent when those boos came out.

Yesterday, it wasn't the whole stadium. It was like it started & the boo birds understood their sentiments weren't as popular as they thought & it stopped pretty quick.

We (I was involved) bood the refs at least twice that I can remember. Martin's first down play, where they tried to rob us & the punt where the Titan touched the ball 7 yards ahead of where the refs originally spotted it.

My thoughts, if you really don't like the boo birds, go to the game & shut them up.
Give me a break, Houston fans look like entitled babies when they are booing their team the first game of the season barely into the 2nd quarter. That was downright embarrassing.

I didn't notice as much booing in yesterdays game but it does not surprise me in the least that there were Houston fans booing when we were up 14-7 and they didn't approve of not getting points on every single offensive possession. Especially after that team is already 3-0.

PK is still a gigantic bag of douche, but it's not out of line to make a comment about people booing their "first time in franchise history 3-0 and now 4-0 team".

And yes, I'll be at the Packers game trying to "shut them up" whatever that means. I take it to mean drink as much beer as possible but your definition may be different.
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Boooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Just make it a drinking game.

For every boo you hear, drink a beer.

Then you won't hear much of anything. Problem solved.
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