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Old 09-30-2012   #321
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Instead of wondering where he suddenly got football talent, everyone just admit they were wrong about him. He had a horrid secondary coach his rookie season in David Gibbs. It has taken time to undo that damage.
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It just takes a long time for a lot of young corners to get acclimated to the NFL. I don't doubt what the previous poster just said, though.
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Instead of wondering where he suddenly got football talent, everyone just admit they were wrong about him. He had a horrid secondary coach his rookie season in David Gibbs. It has taken time to undo that damage.
I'm not admitting anything because I've had faith in him all along.

I saw the improvement he made and that is really all that matters. As they say you're either getting better or worse and Kareem has improved from year to year.
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He had a crapload of bad games. He needs at least a few more big games to make up for that.

I'm happy to admit when I'm wrong. It happens so often, I'm quite used to it.

At this point, it certainly looks like I was too quick to write him off.
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It's especially hard on corners because you should expect passes to be completed at a 60% clip.

I'm glad he's gotten better though. Not all guys do.
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Instead of wondering where he suddenly got football talent, everyone just admit they were wrong about him. He had a horrid secondary coach his rookie season in David Gibbs. It has taken time to undo that damage.
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He sure had himself a helluva game today!
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replace his "rookie" season in '10 with his real first season in '11 - jackson has been exactly as advertised.

'10 he was the leader of the kiddie corners without a coach in sight. deion sanders would've looked like phillip buchannon in that situation. the setting being fubar is being polite.

'11 he has wade and vance, and platoons the #2 spot as he should've his first season. solid play, shows development, will be a capable corner with experience and pretty good with coaching.

scratch the 2010 season, erase it from your memory and judge kareem jackson on what he's done since.
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Instead of wondering where he suddenly got football talent, everyone just admit they were wrong about him. He had a horrid secondary coach his rookie season in David Gibbs. It has taken time to undo that damage.
I will happily eat crow. That being said his technique and talent is and was not good at all his first and second year. He is a work in progress and could not be happier for his game today. He earned it! I just hope he continues to improve.
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Instead of wondering where he suddenly got football talent, everyone just admit they were wrong about him. He had a horrid secondary coach his rookie season in David Gibbs. It has taken time to undo that damage.


I admit nothing. Jackson did suck his first year here.... Massively. Last year he was better but still got picked on (especially in that Saints game). This year, he's markedly better and playing great so far.

I call em like I see em. If a player sucks, I'll call him out. If he's good, I'll give props. KJ been playing well, so.... props
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replace his "rookie" season in '10 with his real first season in '11 - jackson has been exactly as advertised.

'10 he was the leader of the kiddie corners without a coach in sight. deion sanders would've looked like phillip buchannon in that situation. the setting being fubar is being polite.

'11 he has wade and vance, and platoon's the #2 spot as he should've his first season. solid play, shows development, will be a capable corner with experience and pretty good with coaching.

scratch the 2010 season, erase it from your memory and judge kareem jackson on what he's done since.
Coaching aside, we also had little to no pass rush in '10 as well. Bullman & Barwin were out for the season early. Cushing (our most dynamic player at the time) was suspended the first four games & Demeco (our best defensive player & leader) missed 10 games. Eugene Wilson didn't make the season either did he?

1st round pick, yeah, a lot should be expected of him. But I think we were piling it on way to thick. Poor coach, poor defense.... nobody shined on that defense.
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Whether some of want admit you were wrong or not, that's up to you.

But the word "improbable" in the thread title is INAPPROPRIATE and needs to be REMOVED.
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I haven't put my 2 cents in this thread. KJ has come a long way. What a pleasure to watch a player grow like he has. I was wrong for making fun like I did.

No matter his performance next week (within reason ), he's fun to watch knowing where he was three years ago.
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Whether some of want admit you were wrong or not, that's up to you.

But the word "improbable" in the thread title is INAPPROPRIATE and needs to be REMOVED.
My, my,...somebody has too much starch in their Wranglers today.

I don't have to admit to anything because I never said he doesn't belong...I said he needs to hurry his ass up and get there. I think that's pretty much been the sentiment of all us "haters," Marcus. LOL.

Put on some relaxed fit jeans and let the boys breathe, Marcus. It's liberating.
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I admit nothing. Jackson did suck his first year here.... Massively. Last year he was better but still got picked on (especially in that Saints game). This year, he's markedly better and playing great so far.

I call em like I see em. If a player sucks, I'll call him out. If he's good, I'll give props. KJ been playing well, so.... props
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He has improved. But how much wont be known until after he faces Rodgers/Brady/Stafford/Cutler etc....

If I'm wrong I will have my crow smothered with brown gravy. After this season.
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All the standard responses of a Chris Myers part 2 thread.

Open a few old Chris Myers thread and away with the copy and paste.
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He has improved. But how much wont be known until after he faces Rodgers/Brady/Stafford/Cutler etc....

If I'm wrong I will have my crow smothered with brown gravy. After this season.
You, sir, don't deserve any topping or seasoning on your crow! Nice and plain for you, yes, nice and plain!
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All the standard responses of a Chris Myers part 2 thread.

Open a few old Chris Myers thread and away with the copy and paste.

If KJ improves to the point he's considered by some to be the top corner in the league (as Myers is sometimes mentioned at his position) that would truly be something.
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scratch the 2010 season, erase it from your memory...
This year's team is helping me forget a lot of bad seasons.
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My, my,...somebody has too much starch in their Wranglers today.

I don't have to admit to anything because I never said he doesn't belong...I said he needs to hurry his ass up and get there. I think that's pretty much been the sentiment of all us "haters," Marcus. LOL.

Put on some relaxed fit jeans and let the boys breathe, Marcus. It's liberating.


It never ceases to amaze how anyone with any football smarts at all, cannot see how a pass rush helps out the secondary. It's just as fundamental as you could possibly get. Jackson was a rookie on a defense that had NO pass rush. Nada. Zip.

Yet, HE sucked.

Right.
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