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Old 09-26-2012   #21
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Injuries stink but hell Texans will be fine. Someone always steps up on this roster.
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Injuries stink but hell Texans will be fine. Someone always steps up on this roster.
There are 5 players who have to stay healthy in my opinion.

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and since now Jean is banged up, Johnson.. I might even add Cushing to this list.

We have quality depth everywhere else. I just don't feel like testing it again.
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Depending on the area involved, the extent of involvement and whether the torn piece is repaired or removed, running can begin as soon as 1 week, but would be more typically not until 10-14 days. A return to play could on occasion be within 2 weeks. More likely it will be 3-4 weeks.
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Kubiak: S Quintin Demps had thumb surgery. WR Lestar Jean has meniscus issue will have surgery tomorrow. He'll miss a wk, but be back soon.
Texans put a short clock on a return, Dr. CND gives his opinion -- 99 64/100% of the time, Dr. CND is correct.
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Next man up. Let's see what Posey can do when the Regular season lights are on.
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Depending on the area involved, the extent of involvement and whether the torn piece is repaired or removed, running can begin as soon as 1 week, but would be more typically not until 10-14 days. A return to play could on occasion be within 2 weeks. More likely it will be 3-4 weeks.
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Yeah, I'm guessing closer to 2-3 weeks. A lot of it might have to do with how Posey performs too
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Can you elaborate a litlle more, Doc?
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Specifically on what part?
Basically, I was wondering about the "more likely 3-4 weeks" part.

What is the extent of the injury and what kind of procedure Jean went through that prompted your educated guess of 3 to 4 weeks.

Just wondering, that's all.
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Depending on the area involved, the extent of involvement and whether the torn piece is repaired or removed, running can begin as soon as 1 week, but would be more typically not until 10-14 days. A return to play could on occasion be within 2 weeks. More likely it will be 3-4 weeks.
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And here's one of the Texans' crack medical staff providing their "crackerjack" diagnosis techniques...

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Basically, I was wondering about the "more likely 3-4 weeks" part.

What is the extent of the injury and what kind of procedure Jean went through that prompted your educated guess of 3 to 4 weeks.

Just wondering, that's all.
From the sounds of it, the doctors are not expecting to find a meniscus tear that requires REPAIR since this would require rehab and return to play measure more in terms of months.

So we are left with the impression (by the "short recovery" implication) the tear is a relatively small tear. If surgery findings confirm only a very small loose piece of meniscus being involved, it can be removed so that it does not cause additional cartilage damage through abrasive surface damage. Recovery can possibly be 1-2 weeks. If they go in there and find additional trauma that is not totally appropriate to simple excision but is not amenable to surgery, like in the middle portion of the meniscus which has no blood supply (referred to as the white zone, vs the red zone that has good blood supply-See figure below), or even a sprained knee ligament (which not uncommonly can be associated with the meniscus tear), the recovery time can by these factors alone easily be prolonged to 3-4 weeks anyway.

Furthermore, in this particular case, the Texans are not in a position where the return to play by one additional week or so would be absolutely critical. We don't know what the term "meniscus issue" really means.....hopefully it is indeed only a tiny piece of loose meniscus that happened recently (not one that was been allowed to move around loosely for a long time thus scraping other structures and creating more cartilage damage), and one with no accompanying significant trauma. If they didn't know prior to the scope, they will now. But we may not, except by extrapolation of how the recovery goes.


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And here's one of the Texans' crack medical staff providing their "crackerjack" diagnosis techniques...

How did you manage to sneak a camera into one of my consult rooms?
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Im sorry. Yeah, (WR) Lestar (Jean) is totally out. Theyre telling us two weeks. He had the surgery and he was back in here. Hes fine and looks good. He was in here for treatment an hour after surgery. Hes up and around, doing good today. Hes a 100 percent committed to treatment right now. He goes to the afternoon meetings and were hoping that maybe well pull this off like we did with (FB James) Casey a few years ago. James had the same thing done and actually made it back in two weeks, so well see.
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From the sounds of it, the doctors are not expecting to find a meniscus tear that requires REPAIR since this would require rehab and return to play measure more in terms of months.

So we are left with the impression (by the "short recovery" implication) the tear is a relatively small tear. If surgery findings confirm only a very small loose piece of meniscus being involved, it can be removed so that it does not cause additional cartilage damage through abrasive surface damage. Recovery can possibly be 1-2 weeks. If they go in there and find additional trauma that is not totally appropriate to simple excision but is not amenable to surgery, like in the middle portion of the meniscus which has no blood supply (referred to as the white zone, vs the red zone that has good blood supply-See figure below), or even a sprained knee ligament (which not uncommonly can be associated with the meniscus tear), the recovery time can by these factors alone easily be prolonged to 3-4 weeks anyway.

Furthermore, in this particular case, the Texans are not in a position where the return to play by one additional week or so would be absolutely critical. We don't know what the term "meniscus issue" really means.....hopefully it is indeed only a tiny piece of loose meniscus that happened recently (not one that was been allowed to move around loosely for a long time thus scraping other structures and creating more cartilage damage), and one with no accompanying significant trauma. If they didn't know prior to the scope, they will now. But we may not, except by extrapolation of how the recovery goes.


Sounds perfectly like Dutch or German to me, but thank you nonetheless!

In layman term, when Kubiak said Jean is up and around, what can we take it as?
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From the sounds of it, the doctors are not expecting to find a meniscus tear that requires REPAIR since this would require rehab and return to play measure more in terms of months.

So we are left with the impression (by the "short recovery" implication) the tear is a relatively small tear. If surgery findings confirm only a very small loose piece of meniscus being involved, it can be removed so that it does not cause additional cartilage damage through abrasive surface damage. Recovery can possibly be 1-2 weeks. If they go in there and find additional trauma that is not totally appropriate to simple excision but is not amenable to surgery, like in the middle portion of the meniscus which has no blood supply (referred to as the white zone, vs the red zone that has good blood supply-See figure below), or even a sprained knee ligament (which not uncommonly can be associated with the meniscus tear), the recovery time can by these factors alone easily be prolonged to 3-4 weeks anyway.

Furthermore, in this particular case, the Texans are not in a position where the return to play by one additional week or so would be absolutely critical. We don't know what the term "meniscus issue" really means.....hopefully it is indeed only a tiny piece of loose meniscus that happened recently (not one that was been allowed to move around loosely for a long time thus scraping other structures and creating more cartilage damage), and one with no accompanying significant trauma. If they didn't know prior to the scope, they will now. But we may not, except by extrapolation of how the recovery goes.


Thanks, doc. I love reading these. It would be boring from a book, but it's interesting when it relates to your football team.
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There are 5 players who have to stay healthy in my opinion.

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and since now Jean is banged up, Johnson.. I might even add Cushing to this list.

We have quality depth everywhere else. I just don't feel like testing it again.
I agree with this list. Watt seems to single-handedly take over an entire game. Cushing is kind of that way, but I feel like he has lost a small bit of confidence without DeMeco on the field.
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I agree with this list. Watt seems to single-handedly take over an entire game. Cushing is kind of that way, but I feel like he has lost a small bit of confidence without DeMeco on the field.
I think I'd like to revisit this a few games later.

It looks to me like Wade is using Cushing (both ILBs, actually) a little bit differently than last year.
I'd like to have a few more games to study the differences.
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Sounds perfectly like Dutch or German to me, but thank you nonetheless!

In layman term, when Kubiak said Jean is up and around, what can we take it as?
We can take that he had no meniscus REPAIR. If it was a meniscus tear, a piece of the meniscus was arthroscopically REMOVED. With the former, he would not be up and around this soon. With the latter, he would be allowed to begin walking almost immediately. Again, he could be back based on medical status as soon as 1-2 weeks from the surgery if everything goes perfectly, to 3-4 weeks depending on how he responds postop and if there was any additional damage encountered or sprained ligament(s) involved. Can't clarify it any further with the information available. And, even if all information was available, the possibility of prolongation of recovery due to healing problems can never be entirely ruled out.
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We can take that he had no meniscus REPAIR. If it was a meniscus tear, a piece of the meniscus was arthroscopically REMOVED. With the former, he would not be up and around this soon. With the latter, he would be allowed to begin walking almost immediately. Again, he could be back based on medical status as soon as 1-2 weeks from the surgery if everything goes perfectly, to 3-4 weeks depending on how he responds postop and if there was any additional damage encountered or sprained ligament(s) involved. Can't clarify it any further with the information available. And, even if all information was available, the possibility of prolongation of recovery due to healing problems can never be entirely ruled out.
What I wonder is that Kubiak sounds hopeful that Jean will be back in short order like Casey, but how much medical knowledge has he truly acquired throughout the years?

Is this kind of procedure common enough in football for a HC like Kubiak to be somewhat authoritative in his assessment after he learned every news from the pros?
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Excited to see some Posey play time.


For some reason I saw this thread and thought to myself "I used to be wide receiver too, then I took an arrow to the knee."
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What I wonder is that Kubiak sounds hopeful that Jean will be back in short order like Casey, but how much medical knowledge has he truly acquired throughout the years?

Is this kind of procedure common enough in football for a HC like Kubiak to be somewhat authoritative in his assessment after he learned every news from the pros?
Meniscus tear is a very common NFL player injury. Though, they may have a good idea of when he can return, he and his medical consultants are not likely to bet their lives on more specific reliable predictions than what I just posted. Each injury/player can see some variability in ability to return for what might seem to be similar injuries. Sort of like, even though he may have vast experience replacing tires on his car, he is as likely to exactly predict within three thousand miles of wear how long it will be until he will again need to replace them.
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Meniscus tear is a very common NFL player injury. Though, they may have a good idea of when he can return, he and his medical consultants are not likely to bet their lives on more specific reliable predictions than what I just posted. Each injury/player can see some variability in ability to return for what might seem to be similar injuries. Sort of like, even though he may have vast experience replacing tires on his car, he is as likely to exactly predict within three thousand miles of wear how long it will be until he will again need to replace them.
I thought science would be a little more exact than that, LOL!

Thanks, Doc.

It's probably a fair bet for a 4-week return then?

Most importantly, once you replace the tire, the car can still run well ???
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I think I'd like to revisit this a few games later.

It looks to me like Wade is using Cushing (both ILBs, actually) a little bit differently than last year.
I'd like to have a few more games to study the differences.
It's something I hope I'm wrong about, but their relationship was tight. I do agree that Cush will improve after more experience on the weak side.
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It's something I hope I'm wrong about, but their relationship was tight. I do agree that Cush will improve after more experience on the weak side.
No, I think you are right.
It looks to me like they have been playing Cushing more on the weak side.
But he did play plenty on the weak side last year.
I think how he attacks the play at that same WILB position (and at the same time how the SILB attacks the play) is different from last year.

Not all the times, but there are differences.

I remember recounting Cushing overplaying his gap assignments at least 3 times in the first game.

Like I said, I think it's quite different how Wade use the 2 ILBs this year to the last.

I guess we can expect additional changes as Wade implements more of his scheme.

It's getting better though.

Look at how we stop the running game from game one to game three.
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