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Old 09-23-2012   #1
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..........on a 4th down play on his last touchdown series. No delay of game penalty was called and Manning completed that pass for a 1st down, giving the Broncos new life to go on to the make the Td.
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These replacement refs are just horrible.
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We were screaming about it too!!
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..........on a 4th down play on his last touchdown series. No delay of game penalty was called and Manning completed that pass for a 1st down, giving the Broncos new life to go on to the make the Td.
There was yelling about this in my household.
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..........on a 4th down play on his last touchdown series. No delay of game penalty was called and Manning completed that pass for a 1st down, giving the Broncos new life to go on to the make the Td.
He also stepped across the LOS on a play that was called interference .... That could have been huge. I saw Gary with the challenge flag , thought he was going to throw it .... but Im not sure if the PI call would have trumped it or they would have offset.
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Default Re: The play clock ran down to Zero on Manning........

there were also procedure calls not made. on a big reception by decker(?) in the first quarter he's moving forward at the snap as well as covering the tight end.
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Default Re: The play clock ran down to Zero on Manning........

I've seen the regular refs miss delay of game calls quite frequently as well, but yeah, its time for the replacement refs to return to their various Pop Warner leagues.
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He also stepped across the LOS on a play that was called interference .... That could have been huge. I saw Gary with the challenge flag , thought he was going to throw it .... but Im not sure if the PI call would have trumped it or they would have offset.
The rule on illegal fwd pass is that the QB's whole body has to be beyond the LoS before it's a penalty...
Sooooo...
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The rule on illegal fwd pass is that the QB's whole body has to be beyond the LoS before it's a penalty...
Sooooo...
Are you sure about that ? I thought it was the ball .... I know his front foot and arm were across .... I could have sworn I had seen that called before.
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We were screaming about it too!!
We were too. I was angry, lol.

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Are you sure about that ? I thought it was the ball .... I know his front foot and arm were across .... I could have sworn I had seen that called before.
Hey, this was also the SAME play as the play clock being zero.

Multiple things going on. Someone also pointed out that the WR actually offensive pass interfered on that play, not our Texans defender.

Three problems with that play, and it all went Denver's way.
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Default Re: The play clock ran down to Zero on Manning........

There was another play where Manning was backed up and cornered between the tackles and threw away a short pass right down the middle in front of him which didn't make it to the LOS.........no intentional grounding called.
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Are you sure about that ? I thought it was the ball .... I know his front foot and arm were across .... I could have sworn I had seen that called before.
It's the whole body. Every time the issue comes up, the announcer always says that.
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There was another play where Manning was cornered between the tackles and threw away a short right down the middle in front of him which didn't make it to the LOS.........no intentional grounding called.
He threw that one at the feet of Dreessen .... Was a smart play.
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There was another play where Manning was cornered between the tackles and threw away a short right down the middle in front of him which didn't make it to the LOS.........no intentional grounding called.
Yep. Me, my cousins, and Uncles were just shaking our head. We finally just said F it, and just accepted that's just the way it is with the forehead.
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It's the whole body. Every time the issue comes up, the announcer always says that.
i just watched the replay and he was a good step in front of the LOS..... i saw that right away and it was B.S.
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Are you sure about that ? I thought it was the ball .... I know his front foot and arm were across .... I could have sworn I had seen that called before.
I used to think that too. But it's actually the opposite. Saw it happen during a game last year - don't recall which one - where they had Mike Perrera (sp?) as one of the analysts. Perriera said explained that if the QB has even one foot behind the line when the ball is released, it's a legal pass.

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ive seen the real refs miss this call all the time, its like they count zero as a second..

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Default Re: The play clock ran down to Zero on Manning........

I've noticed this problem in several games too. These replacements are in way over their heads and I don't blame them because they are just not trained or experienced enough. They really have to get the regular crew back to work.
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When the clock hits 00 in the NFL it means 00.9 not 00.0. Its always been that way.
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