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Old 09-18-2012   #41
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His high school head coach said basically the same thing in a radio interview. He said JJ was very immature and could never keep his focus on the important things. JJ likes to party and get all the attention that being a pro athlete brings, but lacks the worth ethic to live up to his god-given potential.

It's only a matter of time before the real JJ stands up.
I wonder if his weaknesses will be masked somewhat in Baltimore where they dont run a very complex offense. They pound the rock and their recievers run a lot of simple verticle routes. Much different than his situation here where the route combinations are designed to make the defense react and one guy not doing his job .... screws up the whole thing.

He may get more quality opportunities just running a simple fly pattern .... which even JJ should be able to handle.


Maybe this system and situation was wrong for him ...
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I wonder if his weaknesses will be masked somewhat in Baltimore where they dont run a very complex offense. They pound the rock and their recievers run a lot of simple verticle routes. Much different than his situation here where the route combinations are designed to make the defense react and one guy not doing his job .... screws up the whole thing.

He may get more quality opportunities just running a simple fly pattern .... which even JJ should be able to handle.


Maybe this system and situation was wrong for him ...
Two things come to mind for me..

I think that the Ratbirds will only play him in a small % of their overall offensive snaps and his role is probably narrowly defined so he doesn't have to do any hard core ciferin' on gameday...so I agree with you there.

Many players play better when they are released or traded. They start to realize that all this NFL stuff is just temporary and it all depends on how much someone wants you. Obviously the Texans told him they don't want him anymore and I think that probably helps him grow up a bit more and this will lead him to be more productive since he can see the other side with more clarity after his Texans departure. (assuming he grows up a bit of course).
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Imagine if another Texans castoff end up wearing a Super Bowl ring.
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Imagine if another Texans castoff end up wearing a Super Bowl ring.
I doubt it this year. The Ravens' linebackers are so beat up, that their defense just isn't as good as last year. They will probably win the division, but only because the AFC north is getting weaker through aging and attrition this year. Add in the variability of injuries due to the age of their team, and they could be fighting for a wild card spot in December.
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We keep talking about defense... the last few Super Bowl Champs haven't had strong defenses. It appears that teams with the ability to score 30 pts or more have the inside shot at winning a Super Bowl. & I'm starting to think there are more & more teams pushing the ability to score 40 pts.

The best defenses in the league may slow those teams down, but they won't stop them.
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We keep talking about defense... the last few Super Bowl Champs haven't had strong defenses. It appears that teams with the ability to score 30 pts or more have the inside shot at winning a Super Bowl. & I'm starting to think there are more & more teams pushing the ability to score 40 pts.

The best defenses in the league may slow those teams down, but they won't stop them.
You don't think the Giants had a strong defense last year in their 21 - 17 win over the Pats? 2 of their points came off a safety, and the last TD they scored with a minute left in the game, was allowed by the defense. Pretty low scoring in general, but the team was definitely driven by defense in that playoff run.

The Packers/Steelers 31-25 game was a bit more about offense, but the Packers did force 3 turnovers in their win. I think the offense was the driving force of the Packers that year, but their defense was still pretty good, top 10 iirc.

The Saints sealed their win with a pick 6, but that game was kind of a shootout. The Saints defense was well known for causing lots of turnovers that season as well, so while their overall stats may not have been stellar, they still disrupted opponents quite well. 31-17 isn't an unusually high scoring game though.

Go back one more year, and the highlights of the Steelers/Cardinals 27-23 game included some big defensive plays. James Harrison's 100 yard INT return for a TD at the half was awesome, and probably won them the game. The Cardinals got a safety and the ball back late in the 4th, and that set up a late TD to Fitz, but their defense couldn't hang on to win the game.

Those 4 super bowls are all around 50 points total, so it's not like there is some huge swing in the scoring going on. Each team has strengths and weaknesses, but I think you can see a good balance between both the offense and defense in most of those teams.
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Jacoby just took the kickoff 101 yards for the score
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Jacoby just took the kickoff 101 yards for the score
Yes, nice run by JJ. Apparently tied the NFL record.
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He tied the damn record...
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I can't be magnanimous where Jones is concerned. He spun his wheels and wasted the Texans time for years here while being given every opportunity to turn his act around. Instead he rivals Rosencopter with his stupidity and poor play but then goes to Baltimore and all of a sudden it's "Great to see Jacoby getting it together".

No, **** him. **** him in his stupid ass.
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I can't be magnanimous where Jones is concerned. He spun his wheels and wasted the Texans time for years here while being given every opportunity to turn his act around. Instead he rivals Rosencopter with his stupidity and poor play but then goes to Baltimore and all of a sudden it's "Great to see Jacoby getting it together".

No, **** him. **** him in his stupid ass.
To each his own, but I'm glad he's doing well. Same for Leach and Pollard.
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Leach I'm all for. Pollard I'm happy to see his success. Jacoby I got nothing for.
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Leach I all for. Pollard I'm happy to see his success. Jacoby I got nothing for.
Why the hate for Jacoby? It's our fault for having high expectations for him.
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Well done today Jacoby.

Would have to happen at a period of our return game being in flux though...
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So very much this.

Pollard could be mouthy but he frequently backed it up on the field. Anyone who doesn't recall Leach's value wasn't paying attention.

Jacoby took so much and gave very little. The playoff boneheadedness was the final straw and I'm even more annoyed now that he's decided to start paying attention in class somewhere else.

He did have Pollard-like hands though. 31 used to drop stuff that hit him in the hands too.
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Why the hate for Jacoby? It's our fault for having high expectations for him.
High expectations? I think we all just wanted him to become a competent football player, and he never was one as a Texan. He could be an amazing return man and then pull what he did in Baltimore. He could make a big play as a WR and then not show up for 3 or 4 games in a row. He had all the opportunities in the world to succeed here, but he failed. Screw him. I hope he fumbles a punt return next week.
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Why the hate for Jacoby? It's our fault for having high expectations for him.
No, it's not our fault for having high expectations of him. I started out with an open mind and high hopes like I do for all Texans draft picks. I, just like every Texan fan in the world saw signs of what could be for the first year or two. He'd do something incredible then do something retarded. He'd catch a pass you couldn't imagine anyone even seeing and then drop a pass that hit him right square in the numbers. Young guys do that and you hope they become more reliable, not less. He got chance after chance to step up and he never could do it. The disappearing act he did in his last season here was the final straw for me. When the team needed him most to step up he vanished. Then, when they got to the playoffs and advanced to Baltimore he couldn't just stay gone. He couldn't just quietly do his usual sub-par job. No, he had to pull that **** with the punt and put us in a hole. We would have been better off if he'd missed the plane.

Frankly I hate the guy and the thought of him ever getting a ring makes me nauseous in the same way that Carr having one makes people sick.
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F#@% Jacoby. His interests conflict with ours.

He helped our conference rivals today win a game they should've lost.
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