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Old 09-16-2012   #21
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Guys got hands like Lawrence Vickers.
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What's the problem with holliday? I like his potential. He's not jacoby. Let it go.
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What's the problem with holliday? I like his potential. He's not jacoby. Let it go.
He had 2 muffed punts, but both of those were debatable. The first one happened right after it had started raining in the 2Q. Normally he should catch that, but since it was raining, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

The second one wasn't even his fault. The ball hit Glover Quinn's helmet. I

I liked what I saw out of him, I think he will run a couple back soon. Just be patient.
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Default Re: Trindon Holliday is an accident waiting to happen

Lol the punter was +25 yards either way 40 yard punt of a 60+ yard punt, running, tracking, and catching a ball over your shoulder while raining. I'll give him a pass, the other one was a bit miscommunication it happens, all he has to do is run one or two back and teams will start to focus on punting away from him.
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Seriously? OK y'all want a return every time or a knee down every time. It is special teams, it is suppose to make the game exciting. He did his part wtf else do you want?
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Default Re: Trindon Holliday is an accident waiting to happen

IMO there are two types of return men. One who secures ball and position. He is a "safe"; minimal risk, minimal gain. The other is a Holliday type, one that hesitates almost too long in the end zone searching for a weakness in the blanket coming at him. A risk taker who if successful, causes the fan base to go volcano, erupting in hot screams, cheers and "can you believe what he just did?" and high fives. I lean towards the latter but with some common sense thrown in.

Trindon will mature into the role as this is his truly freshman season. His role is magnified because bottom line, he decides what to do once ball is in air rather like a QB audibling out of a coaches call. Coaching and experience will get him to where he needs to be. All eyes are on him each time he is on field and no other position can say that. Even kickers and punters have fans watching the blockers.
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He needs to have a good game in Denver - like almost returning one for a TD or getting a TD good. Or he will be in danger of getting released before the 6th week IMHO. which with his bad performances he won't be scooped up as quickly as we have feared after a awesome preseason performance. Just goes to show you preseason is just that - preseason.

Also, if the Holliday can't shake his nerves in the regular season how is he going to do it in the playoffs? Makes me have flashbacks of Jacoby in the Ravens game. The guy needs to step it up by the next two games
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He needs to have a good game in Denver - like almost returning one for a TD or getting a TD good. Or he will be in danger of getting released before the 6th week IMHO. which with his bad performances he won't be scooped up as quickly as we have feared after a awesome preseason performance. Just goes to show you preseason is just that - preseason.

Also, if the Holliday can't shake his nerves in the regular season how is he going to do it in the playoffs? Makes me have flashbacks of Jacoby in the Ravens game. The guy needs to step it up by the next two games
he was fine today, do you expect a TD each and every time he touches it? Even Hester, the greatest returner of ALL TIME does not do that, be realistic man
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he was fine today, do you expect a TD each and every time he touches it? Even Hester, the greatest returner of ALL TIME does not do that, be realistic man
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I don't where you got that I said he had to return it every game unless you didn't read my post.

The point of post is Holliday needs to have a good game or his job is becoming more in jeporady. I think anyone could agree with that.
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Default Re: Trindon Holliday is an accident waiting to happen

I didn't like the muff today. But what was almost inexcusable was not warning Quin off when the ball was coming right down on top of him. It's Trindon's job to get Quin out of the way on that.

OTOH, he had a really nice return to set up that first TD. We needed that spark.

I had hoped we'd gotten rid of this insanity with Jacoby's departure. But I've got to give Trindon a bit more time. Hopefully he'll figure it all out. Lord knows, Coach Joe is going to give him an earful all week.
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I had hoped we'd gotten rid of this insanity with Jacoby's departure. But I've got to give Trindon a bit more time. Hopefully he'll figure it all out. Lord knows, Coach Joe is going to give him an earful all week.
That's about the way I feel about it. It's cool that we've got a guy who can take it to the house on any given return. I just don't think the potential reward is equal to the potential risk.

The dude's judgment is seriously questionable. In the first two games this season I've seen him take at least a couple of kickoffs out of the end zone from the very back of the end zone. Last week he brought one out to the 10 yard line and I screamed that he should be waived immediately. Today he brought one back to the 21, but he just barely escaped a tackle at the 10 in the process. It was a thirty yard return that netted just barely more than what would have been gained by taking a knee in the end zone.

This is Jacoby Jones crap all over again. Perhaps I worry too much, but I'm happy to see the overwhelming sentiment in this thread is with me.
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TF your definitely not the only one. I hold my breath every time Trindon catches the ball as well but I honestly think it's a learned reflex action from when Jacoby was here and will take some time to go away. I think the best thing for Trindon right now is to keep running him out there so that he can get comfortable being out there and fielding lots of kicks/punts in practice during the week. I think the first time he costs us a game Kubiak will cut him. In the mean time lets all say a little prayer for Trindon and hope that he gets better soon.
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As long as he doesn't fumble, I don't really mind him taking it out of the deep end-zone, because, you never know, he might bust one for a TD; but, he drops the ball upon trying to catch it way too much. So far, it hasn't resulted in turnovers, but that worries me.

He's only had one impressive return so far also (regular season), but I have to believe that he will have more.

Dude's gotta start catching the ball cleanly & consistently.
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I think some of you worry too much, and Jacoby Jones has infected your brains.

Here we have a guy who has the speed to take it to the house every time he gets the ball, yet you want to dwell on the negative?

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On a different note, how many punt returners have not made mistakes or taken risks? That is the nature of special teams. Like another poster stated, it brings excitement to the game.

If you guys are already comparing Trindon to Jones... I do not know how to make you feel better. Jacoby was a whole different level of freakishly nerve racking. From the way he walked around before punts to his long and skinny build. LITERALLY everything about Jacoby made me nervous when he would go back for returns.
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I don't know about you guys, but I don't think I've watched a punt return in my whole lid not thinking something will go wrong.
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I don't know about you guys, but I don't think I've watched a punt return in my whole lid not thinking something will go wrong.
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Save the muff, which he should've known better than to go for....I thought he had a decent day. As far as special teams go, I'm entirely more concerned with the amount of back blocking going on.
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13 punts yesterday, 2 kickoff returns. 1 muff, 1 questionable decision (Quin head)

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Given the number of times he was the field, I think he had a good day.
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13 yards per punt return, good for 8th in the NFL. I'm satisfied.
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