Super Mario not so super so far

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

DEMECO!!!!!

Actually, you could break it down like this... who are the "leaders" from that class:

Jay Cutler, QB
Maurice Jones-Drew, RB
Brandon Marshall, WR
Marques Colston, WR
Demeco Ryans, LB
Chad Greenway, LB
AJ Hawk, LB
DeAngelo Williams, RB
Nick Mangold, C
Devin Hester, PR/KR
Haloti Ngata, DT
D'Brickashaw Ferguson, T
Jahri Evans, T
Tamba Hali, DE
Mario Williams, DE
Elvis Dumerville, DE
Antonio Cromartie, CB
Cortland Innegan, CB


If I had a do-over and 20-20 hindsight, I'd probably go DeMeco or MJD. If I just had to pick from the original options, I'd go Mario.

Give me Ngata,Evans,Hali,Ferguson/Mangold/Cutler/Marshall/Jones-Drew and Colston over MW. Maybe even Cromartie.

[The Medic01]

Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

DEMECO!!!!!

Actually, you could break it down like this... who are the "leaders" from that class:

Jay Cutler, QB
Maurice Jones-Drew, RB
Brandon Marshall, WR
Marques Colston, WR
Demeco Ryans, LB
Chad Greenway, LB
AJ Hawk, LB
DeAngelo Williams, RB
Nick Mangold, C
Devin Hester, PR/KR
Haloti Ngata, DT
D'Brickashaw Ferguson, T
Jahri Evans, T
Tamba Hali, DE
Mario Williams, DE
Elvis Dumerville, DE
Antonio Cromartie, CB
Cortland Innegan, CB


If I had a do-over and 20-20 hindsight, I'd probably go DeMeco or MJD. If I just had to pick from the original options, I'd go Mario.

Ngata every single time. A nightmare for offenses and IMO a FHOFer

[The Pencil Neck]

Profootballreference.com has a "value" stat. And the player with the highest overall value from that draft class is:

Ngata.

1-32 goes like this:

1. Haloti Ngata -- 12
2. MJD -- 60
3. Jahri Evans -- 108
4. Jay Cutler -- 11
5. Greg Jennings -- 52
6. Marques Colston -- 252
7. Joseph Addai -- 30
8. Marcus McNeill -- 50
9. Brandom Marshall -- 119
10. Nick Mangold -- 29
11. Reggie Bush -- 2
12. Tamba Hali -- 20
13. Cortland Finnegan -- 215
14. D'Brickasaw Ferguson -- 4
15. Santonio Holmes -- 25
16. A.J. Hawk -- 5
17. Mario Williams -- 1
18. Vernon Davis -- 6
19. DeMeco Ryans -- 33
20. Eric Winston -- 66
21. Owen Daniels -- 98
22. Kamerion Wimbley -- 13
23. Antonio Cromartie -- 19
24. DeAngelo Williams -- 27
25. Daryn Colledge -- 47
26. Chad Greenway -- 17
27. Johnathon Joseph -- 24
28. Elvis Dumervil -- 126
29. Kyle Williams -- 134
30. Jeromey Clary -- 287
31. Charlie Johnson -- 199
32. Antoine Bethea -- 207

So, as we suspected, the Texans had a DAMNED fine draft that year, selecting 4 players who are ranked in the top 32 of that draft. And that's the best from that draft. The Saints, Colts, Packers, Broncos, and Chargers had 3 players in the top 32 from that draft.

[dream_team]

Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

DEMECO!!!!!

Actually, you could break it down like this... who are the "leaders" from that class:

Jay Cutler, QB
Maurice Jones-Drew, RB
Brandon Marshall, WR
Marques Colston, WR
Demeco Ryans, LB
Chad Greenway, LB
AJ Hawk, LB
DeAngelo Williams, RB
Nick Mangold, C
Devin Hester, PR/KR
Haloti Ngata, DT
D'Brickashaw Ferguson, T
Jahri Evans, T
Tamba Hali, DE
Mario Williams, DE
Elvis Dumerville, DE
Antonio Cromartie, CB
Cortland Innegan, CB


If I had a do-over and 20-20 hindsight, I'd probably go DeMeco or MJD. If I just had to pick from the original options, I'd go Mario.

I'd probably go Ngata. Mario & Hali come in second. I'd have to watch some game tape on Hali before I could decide.

No way I use a #1 pick on an ILB, so no Meco. I'm also not a fan of using a top pick on a RB, since their shelf life is so low.

[GP]

Originally Posted by Double Barrel

Turns out he was not using an ergonomical pen when he was endorsing one of his big-ass paychecks. That'll learn him!

I was under the impression it was from too many tweets. It's hell on your joints.

[nero THE zero]

Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

Profootballreference.com has a "value" stat. And the player with the highest overall value from that draft class is:

Ngata.

1-32 goes like this:

1. Haloti Ngata -- 12
2. MJD -- 60
3. Jahri Evans -- 108
4. Jay Cutler -- 11
5. Greg Jennings -- 52
6. Marques Colston -- 252
7. Joseph Addai -- 30
8. Marcus McNeill -- 50
9. Brandom Marshall -- 119
10. Nick Mangold -- 29
11. Reggie Bush -- 2
12. Tamba Hali -- 20
13. Cortland Finnegan -- 215
14. D'Brickasaw Ferguson -- 4
15. Santonio Holmes -- 25
16. A.J. Hawk -- 5
17. Mario Williams -- 1
18. Vernon Davis -- 6
19. DeMeco Ryans -- 33
20. Eric Winston -- 66
21. Owen Daniels -- 98
22. Kamerion Wimbley -- 13
23. Antonio Cromartie -- 19
24. DeAngelo Williams -- 27
25. Daryn Colledge -- 47
26. Chad Greenway -- 17
27. Johnathon Joseph -- 24
28. Elvis Dumervil -- 126
29. Kyle Williams -- 134
30. Jeromey Clary -- 287
31. Charlie Johnson -- 199
32. Antoine Bethea -- 207

So, as we suspected, the Texans had a DAMNED fine draft that year, selecting 4 players who are ranked in the top 32 of that draft. And that's the best from that draft. The Saints, Colts, Packers, Broncos, and Chargers had 3 players in the top 32 from that draft.

Addai 7th? AJ Hawk 11 spots higher than Joseph?

I call shenanigans. I'd sure like to see the formula used to derive that value.

[Specnatz]

Seriously?

I would everyone to go back and watch the steelers game. Mario played well for us. Was he worth the money? No but folks here are bad mouthing him like he was some scrub. i swear I think our fans are some of the most uneducated of fickle there is. If they are not whining about something they are not happy.

[HJam72]

Best thing I have to say about that #1 pick is that it is over. None of those 3 players is on their original team anymore and I'm glad it's all water under the bridge. All 3 were over-hyped big time and it turns out all the arguments over who was the best were a total waist of time.

[Playoffs]

Bills fans looking for Mario:

https://twitter.com/i/#!/search/real...3MarioWilliams

[gtexan02]

That wasn't funny, it was sad. All this excitement in Buffalo about getting a big name superstar defensive end and nothing to show for it.\

How do you let the Pats score 52 points on you? No sacks at all... jeez

[Scooter]

hey, paying a defensive lineman with work ethic issues 100 million dollars will totally be worth it ...



/redskins, bills

[Showtime100]

Originally Posted by gtexan02

That wasn't funny, it was sad. All this excitement in Buffalo about getting a big name superstar defensive end and nothing to show for it.\

How do you let the Pats score 52 points on you? No sacks at all... jeez

I saw a few plays late in the game today and Mario was in on the tackle and the announcer said, "Mario Williams...FINALLY." I thought maybe this was a bad sign myself...lol.

[PapaL]

Originally Posted by gtexan02

That wasn't funny, it was sad. All this excitement in Buffalo about getting a big name superstar defensive end and nothing to show for it.\

How do you let the Pats score 52 points on you? No sacks at all... jeez

That's the problem. He has no sack at all. Hahaha

[GP]

Originally Posted by Playoffs

Bills fans looking for Mario:

https://twitter.com/i/#!/search/real...3MarioWilliams

Andy Wade ‏@HouCounterplot
What does Mario Williams and Monica Lewinsky have in common? They're both screwing Bills.



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Even an ESPN NFL analyst is in on the fun:

Steve Levy ‏@espnSteveLevy
really thought the texan's defense would miss mario williams atleast a little...not at all

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scott pianowski ‏@scott_pianowski
"Wow, we really miss Mario Williams." -- Nobody in Houston

[GP]

Mario's twitter profile says this:

Black Buffalo Bill. Laid back on the no stress express BBWOLF AUTOSPORTS!

And I am not kidding. He's laid back on the "no stress express" alright. And seems like he's in love with his autosports too. So much money, so little time.

[chicagotexan2]

Mario Williams - Lamborghini body, Yugo motor.

[Brisco_County]

What the Bills are witnessing is the real spectacle that is Mario Williams: A man with the athleticism and measurables to make history, but won't commit to figuring out how. He is indeed a freak of nature in the way he will not dedicate himself to elevating his game despite possessing the physical tools to do so. The Bills didn't waste that $50 million, they bought themselves the 8th Wonder of World mediocrity.

[Norg]

bills are getting so screwd money wise LOL

no about Connar Barwin ....... ???????

[Vinny]

In the immortal words of Joel Buschbaum...

Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane

[silentassassin]

Originally Posted by gtexan02

That wasn't funny, it was sad. All this excitement in Buffalo about getting a big name superstar defensive end and nothing to show for it.\

How do you let the Pats score 52 points on you? No sacks at all... jeez

Honestly, serves them right. I may be holding a petty grudge, but I remember when he signed with Buffalo it wasn't enough for their fans to be excited for the signing.

Even their own GM took one. I remember (either at a press conference or a radio interview) he mentioned how they'd use him where he "belongs," and never have him drop back in coverage (as if we used him almost extensively in coverage).

Mario isn't the only one to blame for this, I'm pretty sure Dave Wannstedt has a lot more to do with why they're struggling defensively, but it's still nice to see Bills fans complain after they dogged on Houston so much after getting Mario.