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Old 09-09-2012   #21
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Yea, cause at halftime Rick realized he should immediately call schaubs and jamisons agent...
I think I caught a glimpse of them signing the contracts, on the sideline late in the 4th quarter.
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i like it, though it's quite a bit bigger than i think it should be. schaub is the quarterback we're built for. when discussing our other quarterbacks i compare them to schaub ... can they "throw to a spot blindfolded" like schaub? the answer is always "no". average arm, no mobility, doesnt adjust very quickly ... but he's accurate and as i said - he can put the ball exactly where it's supposed to be based on the offensive and defensive calls faster than anyone we could sign. there is one knock, his heath ... and even that is hardly a knock. every injury is from awkward contact, not muscle or joint or anything hinting at a weakness.

towards his age, it doesnt matter. he's more in the chad pennington mold, decision and accuracy are key, though he still has more velocity than our current rookie. as long as matt and kubiak are together, he's going to be no worse than very very good.
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Not bad for an above average qb
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More than I was expecting but its good to have the extension finally out of the way now.
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This is another great signing by the Texans, 15.5/yr (-the usual, contractual real world amount) for a QB is just where he should Schaub should be. He performs at a top third level and got a top third contract. He IS the Texans'/Kubiak's/System QB that is needed for the offensive system, and if anyone watched last year's playoff games you should feel comfortable that he can take us to a divisional championship and beyond.

His only replacement would come from having an absolute miserable year(s) and being lucky that a legitimate rookie QB was waiting there for you... Don't know about you all, but I'm not ready to do that yet, when we've finally gotten to the top of the hill.
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And you don't feel good about it why???
Because we're paying $15M/year to an above-average player.
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Because we're paying $15M/year to an above-average player.
Besides Schaub, who else would you recommend being our starting QB? Schaub, despite some of his failings, is still a good QB in Kubiak's system. And he did make some good throws today.
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http://www.spotrac.com/top-salaries/nfl/quarterback/ To those that think Schaub is getting paid like a player of his caliber.
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Besides Schaub, who else would you recommend being our starting QB?
That's not relevant to him getting too much money.

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And he did make some good throws today.
Of course he did. He's an above-average quarterback.
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Because we're paying $15M/year to an above-average player.
Yes, lets live through another season of TJ yates.... He looked so good this preason
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That's not relevant to him getting too much money.


Of course he did. He's an above-average quarterback.
Yes it actually is. Without him we are an average to sucky team.
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Where were all the bootleg deep passes that we have all grown accustom to ?
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LZ just said it was done just after midnight last night.
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http://www.spotrac.com/top-salaries/nfl/quarterback/ To those that think Schaub is getting paid like a player of his caliber.
That's salary only and doesn't include roster, signing and workout bonuses. It also doesn't give a good indication of the average caphit per year, which is really what matters.
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Yes, lets live through another season of TJ yates.... He looked so good this preason
Again, that has nothing to do with Schaub being overpaid. Using 4 preseason games from Yates as your irrelevant counterargument has even less to do with it.
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Yes it actually is. Without him we are an average to sucky team.
Last year without him and several other key players disagrees.
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That's salary only and doesn't include roster, signing and workout bonuses. It also doesn't give a good indication of the average caphit per year, which is really what matters.
The 15.5 is his base, so it's relevant. With the signing bonus alone he's still in the same territory, and still overpaid.
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http://www.spotrac.com/top-salaries/nfl/quarterback/ To those that think Schaub is getting paid like a player of his caliber.
You're comparing base salaries to his potential total salary, which is not a valid comparison. Compare totals to totals.
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I don't even know why he's arguing about this...
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The 15.5 is his base, so it's relevant. With the signing bonus alone he's still in the same territory, and still overpaid.
You have no idea how much of it is incentive based, there's no way to tell how much he's really going to earn. 25 guaranteed is actually pretty reasonable, as that's basically 2 years guaranteed, plus a little more. As I said earlier, I hope it's backloaded so that we are basically making a 2-3 year deal with him, and he won't earn the 20 million or whatever it could be in year 4. Look at some of those contracts you linked, almost every one of those QBs are making outrageous sums in their final years, and it's unlikely they will get it.

I'm willing to bet about 10 million of it is tied up in incentives based on things like starting 14-16 regular season games, 2 million bonus for winning the Super Bowl, 1 million bonus for winning AFC, etc etc. QB contracts are always inflated by stuff like that.
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