Holliday's chances at making the team

Originally Posted by IBleedTexans

That's all jacoby was good for so I'd call him a one trick pony with small hands

Small hands, big....heart? Holliday is a legit weapon. He won't make his living in tight spaces however. He needs room to run.

[speedfreek]

Early on in camp I wanted to see Holliday make the team, but now not so much. The more I think of it, the more injuries I see on defense, the more I realize how easy it is to neutralize a return the less I see this being a smart move.

Honestly, if opponents (with decent kickers) think this guy is a legit weapon, they'll just kick it out of the back of the endzone. On punts, they'll just boot it out of bounds.

Returners are the one weapon that, with the new rules, can simply be rendered pointless. Holliday just doesn't bring enough other capabilities to the table. And last nights fumble was so reminiscent of Jacoby that I want no part of it..

TJ

[texanhead08]

Originally Posted by speedfreek

Early on in camp I wanted to see Holliday make the team, but now not so much. The more I think of it, the more injuries I see on defense, the more I realize how easy it is to neutralize a return the less I see this being a smart move.

Honestly, if opponents (with decent kickers) think this guy is a legit weapon, they'll just kick it out of the back of the endzone. On punts, they'll just boot it out of bounds.

Returners are the one weapon that, with the new rules, can simply be rendered pointless. Holliday just doesn't bring enough other capabilities to the table. And last nights fumble was so reminiscent of Jacoby that I want no part of it..

TJ

If teams are doing that then he is a legit weapon. There aren't a lot of good directional punters anymore.

[infantrycak]

Originally Posted by texanhead08

If teams are doing that then he is a legit weapon. There aren't a lot of good directional punters anymore.

It isn't just that. It seems like most of the time the refs spot the ball well forward of where it went out of bounds.

[Malloy]

I did not notice this, but I've heard that he's contributing in ST coverage... or am I making things up?

If that's the case, then he sees the field even more.

[bhsman]

Originally Posted by Malloy

I did not notice this, but I've heard that he's contributing in ST coverage... or am I making things up?

If that's the case, then he sees the field even more.

He was used in a bit of a gunner role against SF a few times.

[texanhead08]

Originally Posted by Malloy

I did not notice this, but I've heard that he's contributing in ST coverage... or am I making things up?

If that's the case, then he sees the field even more.

I think he was the gunner on punt coverage last night. I don't remember if he was on kickoff coverage too.

[Malloy]

Roger. Well if he sees gunner duty too, that's a few more snaps on the field a game.

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by Corrosion

Take Martin's fumble - the defender put his hat on the ball ... Gotta tip your hat to the guy for making a play.

Link - Warning its the Crapical

Originally Posted by Martin

“I just got to learn from it, get better and protect the ball better,” Martin said. “The first one I can’t have the ball swinging out, so I put that one on myself. The second one I feel like it was just a good hit. He put his helmet right on the ball and it popped out.”

[Texn4life]

Guys get hard hits on the ball all the time in the league. I understand it was a good hit, but I guarantee you Kubiak doesn't accept that as an excuse for him fumbling. And I just found the quote right after I typed that.

Kubiak on Martin: “There’s no excuse for those fumbles. We don’t accept that. He’s going to play a lot. We like him and we’re going to trust him. So he can’t turn it over.”

[Texn4life]

But lead CBS TV analyst Phil Simms thinks the short speedster should be a lock. Simms came away from calling the Texans preseason game with the New Orleans Saints more than impressed with the 5-foot-5 Holliday, even on a night when Holliday fumbled one return away, gift wrapping a Saints touchdown, and botched another.

Simms — as obsessive a watcher of tape as any NFL analyst, including the overhyped Jon Gruden — has seen more than enough from Holliday this preseason to realize that the former LSU player is the type of difference maker few teams in the league have.

"If the Texans don't think he is (worthy of a roster spot), he will be picked up as soon as he hits that waiver wire," Simms said during an appearance on 610 AM.

Sims seems to share my thoughts that he'd be picked up as soon as he was let go, and I think the Titans would be the most eager of the teams to bring him in. Holliday has already proven that he can make big plays in the return game. The only way he does not make the team now is if he completely makes a fool out of himself fielding punts and kicks today. Ball security should be his focus tonight. (Well tonight and every game after as well!)

Phil Simms thinks Kubiak would be insane to cut Trindon Holliday: Expects returner to win games

[Thorn]

Hilliday will be returning kickoffs and punts in the NFL this season. Whether it be for the Texans or not.

[Texn4life]

Originally Posted by Thorn

Hilliday will be returning kickoffs and punts in the NFL this season. Whether it be for the Texans or not.

He has definitely earned some money this preseason.

[badboy]

Originally Posted by Texn4life

He has definitely earned some money this preseason.

Plus he is playing for a new contract.

[Rey]

Holiday is playing for his life.

One more year and I believe he qualifies for NFL pension plan and health insurance. That's pretty big.

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by Thorn

Hilliday will be returning kickoffs and punts in the NFL this season. Whether it be for the Texans or not.

Unless he does something stupid tonight .... He'll make this roster.

[panamamyers]

Originally Posted by utahmark

He looked lost his first year here. There was nothing that justified him making the team two years ago or last year. This year is a different story.

Say what you will....I had him pegged as a Pro Bowl returner the first return he made. You can fix the ball handling and the nervousness. You can't fix world class speed. Again, we are just extremely lucky that such a phenomenal talent kept falling right back into our laps.

[Playoffs]

1000%.

[pissknocker]

Originally Posted by panamamyers

Say what you will....I had him pegged as a Pro Bowl returner the first return he made. You can fix the ball handling and the nervousness. You can't fix world class speed. Again, we are just extremely lucky that such a phenomenal talent kept falling right back into our laps.

Wait I know we PUPed him after his hand issue. Was he ever cut? Was there ever a possibility another team could have claimed him? Just curious.

[Rey]

Originally Posted by pissknocker

Wait I know we PUPed him after his hand issue. Was he ever cut? Was there ever a possibility another team could have claimed him? Just curious.

Yeah. We cut him a few times last year.