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It's 4:30 am and I'm bored at work so I thought I'd throw together a quick mock since no one has done one in a while. This mock is based on keeping Schaub, Barwin, Brown and drafting in the late 20's.
1. Cobi Hamilton-WR from Arkansas, he's currently listed by Walter and CBS as a 2nd round prospect but he'll be a senior and has a very good QB prospect returning. He should be the #1 WR at Arkansas this year and have a big year, I think he moves up. Good size and average speed, lots of SEC experience. 2. Mycah Hyde-CB from Iowa, very good size for a CB in the NFL and good speed. Also good college productivity, and adds some quality depth to the team. You can never have enough good CB's. 3. Sylvester Williams-DT from N.C., this pick might take some luck but I like his size and mobility, good agility for a big man. He'd work in a rotation with Earl Mitchell at NT after Sean Cody leaves due to FA. 3b. Xavier Nixon-OT from Florida, he's a little light weight for the OT position but with his height and age he should be able to add some weight without losing quickness/agility. Butler may be gone after this next season and though the Texans seem high on Newton, Nixon would be the backup/swing OT and it would give him time to add the bulk. 4. Patrick Larimore-ILB from UCLA, quality depth behind Cushing, James, and Dobson or may take the other ILB rotational position away from James or Dobson and alot less expensive. 5. Prentiss Waggner-FS/CB from Tennessee, great size and speed for the position and I like a FS with CB coverage experience. 5b. Quinton Patton-WR from LA Tech, he might move higher with a good year so this pick might take some luck as well but he's currently listed by Walter and CBS in the 5th-7th rounds. Good size, speed, athleticism, ball concentration, field awarness, and doesn't seem afraid of contact. 6. A.J. Francis-DT from Maryland, I like his size and speed. Also has decent college productivity for a DT and Maryland produces some good athletes. Depth on the D-line and plays on jumbo packages, short yardage or goal line plays. Added bulk on the D-line is never a bad thing. 7. BPA, I'm thinking maybe a blocking TE, FB, maybe some depth at OG, RB or WR wouldn't hurt either. Opinions? P.S. 0430 hrs. sucks. |
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I would be very happy with the Hamilton/Hyde picks. Hamilton has way above avg speed.
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1) Hamilton- I dont know a ton about the guy, when I watched Arkansas last year he never stood out to me. But just looking at size and athleticism, he is a player worth keeping an eye on. However, I feel that you are reaching for a position of need, rather than grabbing a better player at a different position, and then looking to fill the WR hole in the 2nd or 3rd. 2) I love Hyde, one of the better DBs in the draft. If it turns out he is too slow for CB, he should be able to play FS in the NFL. Also, the guy loves ST. Love this pick. 3) Big NT prospect, you know I love the idea. He is definitely one to watch for next year, and 3rd round seems about right. As you said, he is a gamble, but worth the risk here. 3b) I really think an OT is going to be drafted. I did some research on this guy after you dropped his name in another thread, and I was impressed. 4) Larimore retired, as mentioned in a different thread. Bummer, because I also thought he would make a heck of a pro, as did beerlover. 5) Waggner- I know nothing about the guy. I think you may be grabbing too many DBs, as the position looks pretty well filled on the Texans. 5b) With this many picks, it cant hurt to take a gamble on some raw small schoolers that could be home runs. Patton has caught my eye as well. 6) I like the other Maryland DT better (Vellano), but he is going to go in the 4th round (in that range). You cant ever have too much DLine depth, so rock on. 7) You have BPA here, but I am going to suggest looking for an OLB here. In the 3-4, like I have said, I see an OLB being drafted every year. All in all, it is a good list of people to look into for the next year. Nice job. |
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Thanks for the input... 1. Yes I might be reaching for position over taking BPA but I think our need at WR can't wait til the end of the 2nd or 3rd rounds when the top WR's will be gone by then. We've got good depth pretty much every where else on the team, it's time to take a top WR and develop them. I'm looking for a guy that can be a #2 quickly with potential to be a future #1. I think there's a better than average chance that this could be Walter's last year with the Texans and although I like Marten in the slot at #3 WR, I don't think Posey will ever be anything more than a #4 rotational guy and the same can be said for Jean. I think we need a big time improvement in quality and youth at WR, thus the reason for the Patton pick in the 5th as well. Hamilton is currently listed as a 2nd round pick but I think he's in a great position to move up to the 1st round. All the great WR talent ahead of him last year graduated Arkansas to the NFL so he'll be "The Man" at WR and he's got a top QB slinging him the ball in Tyler Wilson. He's poised for a climb in the rankings much more so than Terrance Williams who will have QB issues at Baylor now that RGIII is gone, and I'm not sure what the QB situation is like for Marquess Wilson at Wash. St.. I think Justin Hunter goes before us in the 1st but Da'Rick Rogers might be a possibility as well. 2. I'm glad you like Hyde as well but remember this mock was done several weeks ago before the emergence of our youthful secondary in TC and preseason game 1. If everyone does well this year CB could possibly be lowered in priority or taken off completely. 3. I think Shaun Cody and Antonio Smith both stand a good chance of being gone at the end of this season so an athletic big man is a must and Sylvester Williams would work in the rotation with Earl Mitchell at NT. Also the reason for the pick of A.J. Francis in the 6th, added depth of big men on the D-line. 3b. I agree an OT will be drafted and I think Nixon has great size and speed for the position. Butler could be gone after this season and Newton will need some competition at RT as well as a new backup swing OT. He'll need to add some bulk but he's got the height to carry it. 4. Larimore has retired and I wish him well. Just like #2 this was done prior to the emergence of our current ILB's and could possibly be lowered in priority or taken off completely due to the good play of James, Dobbins, Louiseau, and Alexander. I think we've got some decent depth here. 5. The secondary is looking good so far, Waggner would simply be competition with Nolan and Demps at FS. Maybe an improvement. I like a FS with CB experience and Waggner has great size for the position. 5b. See #1. 6. See #3. 7. I couldn't really think of another position to pick some depth for. I disagree with another OLB, I just don't see the need. Maybe a top notch FB like Zach Boren from Ohio St. or another WR. If we draft a bunch of WR someone's got to turn out to be useful. Last edited by Wolf6151; 08-17-2012 at 06:32 AM. |
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The recent two preseason games have me re-working my 2013 mock. I'm hoping to remove WR from my first round. Got to keep fluid.
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Also, we have to consider that Wade Smith probably won't be on the team next year, because we will need to spend his 3 million in salary elsewhere. Might need a Guard and RT in the next draft.
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Brooks, Newton and Jones along with Brown are the future of the Texans OL. They have the ability. They just need more experience in the ZBS. |
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Draft related, if this is not applicable then I might just target OT with 1st selection? Can't go wrong with a Matthews, Jake is another in long line of talented NFL pedigree who would solidify an already talented, young OL.
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BTW, I would love the Matthews pick. (10 yr starter) I really hope the Wr's step up and Wr isn;t a huge need in next yrs draft, So far Martin and Jean have really impressed me. |
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Martin and Jean have impressed me as well but not enough to remove WR off our list of 2013 draft needs. I think Martin looks very good in the slot as #3WR and with some experience I think Jean has potential to take Walters position next year at #2WR. For the time being I'll keep WR at the top of my list of needs for the 1st round. I'd still like a big time WR that can be a current #2WR with potential to be a #1WR soo. I agree with Jones getting more playing time, I'd like to see him with the 1's at either LG or RG. If the experiment works great if not at least we tried and Jones got some reps. and experience. I really hope that Newton can get better and lock down the RT position either this year or next year and for years to come, eliminating RT as a need in next years draft, we'll see. Butler just isn't playing as well as I expected.
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You can call me a terse crystal ball reader all you want but until salary cap loosens, we better start replacing higher dollar vets with younger, cheaper guys. I think Jones can replace Myers in 2013 and an OG/RT like Matthews who could start day one is way to go. 2013: Brown, Brooks, Jones, Matthews and Newton locks the line for years.
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I have Brooks replacing Smith.
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BB & DR O-line discussion leads to a couple certainties and a few questions regarding the outlook of the O-line in 2013 and how it relates to the draft. I'd really like to solidify the O-line but I can see it possibly changing alot in the 2013 as well. 2 certainties are that Brown will be at LT and Myers will be at Center. Questions, will Brooks improve enough to take one of the OG spots and will Newton improve enough to own the RT spot? I had thought of Brooks as Caldwells eventual replacement but BB's idea of him replacing the more expensive W. Smith at LG is a good one. It also makes financial sense, since cutting W. Smith and re-signing Caldwell would be cheaper than the reverse, I just can't see replacing both OG spots and RT in one year. Caldwells not great but he's not bad either and I think we can re-sign him alot cheaper than W. Smith. I agree with keeping Jones at backup interior O-line since I think he can play any of the 3 inside spots, though I would like to see him get some game time reps. for experience sake. Provided we let Butler walk and Newton is the future at RT then we'd only have to draft for depth at OT and possibly OG is S. Smith doesn't improve. Assuming we get a comp. pick in the 3rd then I'm guessing one of those 3rd round picks would be an OT.
BB hit the nail on the head when he said you've got to stay fluid with your outlook on the 2013 draft because the outlook is changing on the O-line and I can forsee next offseason being even bloodier with all the salary cap cuts than this last offseason was. |
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This is my terribly early Texans Mock Draft for 2013 - (hopefully Texans select 32nd).
First Round: Jake Matthews, OT(JR) 6-5 305 Texas A&M Lock down right side with ability to swing over if needed left side without losing a step. Texans OL would be officially loaded to help keep Schawb healthy as he takes hometown discount to extend his career as a Houston Texan. This is a great value too if he opts out to enter the NFL early. Second Round: Josh Boyd, DT/NT, 6-3 300 Mississippi State ![]() Bumped up player/position because both fit better late 2nd to upgrade middle of Wade's 3-4 with Boyd's upside to become one of the leagues best young nose tackles. More upside than Mike Martin, Michigan who if taken by Texans last draft would be in there fighting for starting minutes now. I realize the majority of Texan fans would prefer a sexier pick like WR in the first couple rounds (we were just there last draft) but I'm keeping it old school, smash mouth in the trenches taking OL then DL in first two rounds. Third Round: Chris Borland, ILB(JR), 5-11 242, Wisconsin ![]() Per 65 recommendation & superior eye for talent, switched ILB to Wisconsin "honey badger" Chris Borland who in his words, "that guy there is a football player". Look people if Sharpton could stay healthy, which he can't, it would be a different story. It's time if the right player is available who could step in immediately & contribute to fortify the inside of defense. Boyd & Borland for office! Fourth Round: Michael Williams, TE, 6-5 272 Alabama ![]() Texans need a true blocking TE especially in short yardage & goal-line stands. Williams is a massive, powerful & athletic blocker who can help seal the edge or create cut-back lanes for Foster & Tate. The 4th rd. has been a popular choice for Kubiak/Smith to take a TE. Fifth Round: Dan Buckner, WR, 6-3 215 Arizona ![]() Feel good about LeStar Jean's progress year two as undrafted free agent. Buckner is sort of carbon-copy, long-strider, deep threat & field stretcher. His teammate, Juron Criner, a far more polished WR taken 5th rd. by Oakland & looking good in camp so far. Sixth Round: Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, 6-0 192 Connecticut ![]() Big cover corner coming off Knee injury. If he fully recovers in less than one year (doubt it) he could still be on the board late? Texans will probably take a shot every draft in secondary when a player meets their system requirements. Seventh Round: Carson York, OG, 6-5 292 Oregon ZBS guard with experience both sides. Very quick, technically sound. See his stock rising, have really been impressed with Duck OL now for several years & they always seem to produce decent late round prospects who stick. Center Hroniss Grasu could be the highest Duck OL drafted in years when he comes out in a couple years, his play is outstanding. with a little help from my friends-
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I really like going OT in the first, and Matthews is as good as any OT eligible for the draft. If he is there, money. Again, I really like the position you are taking here, but unlike your first round pick, I dont really like Reddick. I dont know why, maybe I just need to watch UNC more (and I do plan to this season), but something about the guy just seems off. There are some Big 10 inside 'backers that should be available in the 3rd round that I am more interested in. Dang BL, do you have my draft needs sheet or something? I really like grabbing a NT. I dont know a ton about your guy, but he is a proven talent in the rough and tough SEC. I will definitely keep an eye on him this year. Seriously, you are taking my notes. While I am planning on drafting a TE earlier than you have here, I like the fact that you target the position early. However, he is definitely more of a blocking TE than what I am looking for. If OD is healthy, then that is great. We could use a blocking specialist (remember the pick of Hill out of NCState a couple years ago). But if OD remains to be an injury risk, and GG goes not step up, we could use a more established receiver at the position. Buckner has the look of a number 2 receiver. Sign me up. I dont know anything about the CB, but I think that grabbing some depth late is a pretty solid idea. And I dont know anything about York either, but again, I like grabbing depth along the OL. In summation, I would be stoked if the real draft turned out around these lines. |
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