Official 2012 Training Camp Thread

[HOU-TEX]

Cushing spent the night in Hospital due to illness. They sent him to Hospital to speed up recovery time.

Nick Scurfield‏@NickScurfield

LB Brian Cushing (illness) missed practice after spending the night in a hospital. Could be back w/ team this afternoon

Gary Kubiak said he's "not worried" about Cushing- team sent him to hospital to help him recover quickly #Texans

[Playoffs]

[KMG 365]

Keyaron Fox suffered a knee injury during practice this morning. Kubiak doesn't know the extent of the injury yet. Fingers crossed it isn't as bad as it could be.

With Sharpton on PUP that thins out the ILB position even more.

This will give Shawn Loiseau a golden opportunity to show his talents. Better take advantage of it kid.

[gary]

Overcoming injuries is very important the Giants had several last year.

[Thorn]

Saturday is so very close now!!!!

[The Pencil Neck]

Originally Posted by Thorn

Saturday is so very close now!!!!

Stop getting my hopes up!

[Heath Shuler]

Who is the other coach in this pic, always seems to be near Kubiak and kinda runs practice.

[GuerillaBlack]

Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

Stop getting my hopes up!

Smooth sailing after this hump day is over.

[NastyNate]

Originally Posted by KMG 365

Keyaron Fox suffered a knee injury during practice this morning. Kubiak doesn't know the extent of the injury yet. Fingers crossed it isn't as bad as it could be.

With Sharpton on PUP that thins out the ILB position even more.

This will give Shawn Loiseau a golden opportunity to show his talents. Better take advantage of it kid.

He was going against 3's, but Louiseau was playing his ass off on the day I was there, shedding blockers and meeting the ball carrier at the LOS or behind it. Then he got blown up by the right guard and slipped on one play so I bit my tongue. I really liked his football IQ though, seems very fluid and natural instinct to get to the ball.

[GP]

LINK TO FULL STORY HERE.

Today was the last practice before the Texans’ first preseason game, and the Texans prepared by running plays from the Carolina offense.

1. Along with the other players who have been injured throughout the week, Shaun Cody, Owen Daniels, and Randy Bullock did not practice.

2. Brian Cushing did not report to practice today after spending time in the hospital with an illness. Cushing has been released, and he is expected to play in the preseason opener against Carolina.

and...

4. Dropped passes were a big problem at camp today. Rookie Tight End Logan Brock had the most difficulty, and Gary Kubiak got particularly frustrated with wide receiver Juaquin Iglesias after he missed an easy catch during seven-on-sevens.

5. The defense got off to a shaky start with several blown coverages, but tightened up towards the end of practice.

I left out numbers 3 and 6 from the list of observations, so you need to click the link to see those two notes on how the RBs looked and the situation at LB.

[JCTexan]

Originally Posted by GP

LINK TO FULL STORY HERE.



and...



I left out numbers 3 and 6 from the list of observations, so you need to click the link to see those two notes on how the RBs looked and the situation at LB.

#3 mentions Jonathan Grimes. Everything I'm hearing about him says he's doing good so far. So is Forsett. Is there a possibility with Houston keeping four RB's this year?

[GP]

Originally Posted by JCTexan

#3 mentions Jonathan Grimes. Everything I'm hearing about him says he's doing good so far. So is Forsett. Is there a possibility with Houston keeping four RB's this year?

My immediate gut instinct says Grimes to the PS.

I don't see Kubiak doing away with precedent, and the precedent has been that the Texans carry 3 RBs. Well, that might not be true. I seem to remember back in the Ahman Green or Ron Dayne era here that we ended up having only two RBs on a game day roster for some reason, and they both got dinged up and one of them is out there hobbling around because there was nobody else left to pull RB duty.

Maybe I'm wrong though. I know that one time last year, Foster was banged up and Ward got banged up (a blow to the head or something), and I think Ben Tate or Chris O. ended up being the only RB we had for the rest of a game. IIRC.

But I don't see us carrying more than 3 RBs, and IIRC the only guy out of the four RBs who is PS eligible is Grimes. And frankly, teams tend to not poach other teams' 53-man cutdown guys...so a guy like Grimes (who is raw in terms of NFL experience, just like other teams' version of Grimes right now) will likely pass waivers and hit our PS squad where he can be called up if any of our starting three RBs get banged up on a Sunday in the reg season.

I think Case Keenum, if he has a decent preseason and looks like Chase Daniel did for the Saints a few years back, will be poached off waivers if we try to get Case to the PS. But Grimes? I think he is a PS guy all the way, IMO.

[ChampionTexan]

Originally Posted by GP

I think Case Keenum, if he has a decent preseason and looks like Chase Daniel did for the Saints a few years back, will be poached off waivers if we try to get Case to the PS. But Grimes? I think he is a PS guy all the way, IMO.

Daniel wasn't actually poached off waivers. Nobody claimed him when the Redskins let him go in their final cut. He went to the Saints PS after going unclaimed (Although I believe he did choose them over the same offer from the Redskins).

He spent the first three weeks of the '09 season on the Saints practice squad, got promoted to the 53 man roster for about two weeks, and then bounced back and forth between the PS and the 53 man roster a couple of times before landing on the 53 man roster for good prior to the Saints last regular season game in 2009 (technically, Jan. 2010). He actually ended up getting waived three times during the '09 season (Once by Washington and twice by New Orleans), and cleared waivers all three times.

I may end up being wrong, but unless Case looks incredible, I just have a difficult time seeing his stock rise that much between the draft and the end of preseason.

[GP]

Originally Posted by ChampionTexan

Daniel wasn't actually poached off waivers. Nobody claimed him when the Redskins let him go in their final cut. He went to the Saints PS after going unclaimed (Although I believe he did choose them over the same offer from the Redskins).

He spent the first three weeks of the '09 season on the Saints practice squad, got promoted to the 53 man roster for about two weeks, and then bounced back and forth between the PS and the 53 man roster a couple of times before landing on the 53 man roster for good prior to the Saints last regular season game in 2009 (technically, Jan. 2010). He actually ended up getting waived three times during the '09 season (Once by Washington and twice by New Orleans), and cleared waives all three times.

I may end up being wrong, but unless Case looks incredible, I just have a difficult time seeing his stock rise that much between the draft and the end of preseason.

Wow! Here I had thought that he was drafted by Saints, and that they kept him on active 53 rather than send him to PS!!!

My bad. Good catch!

[ChampionTexan]

Originally Posted by GP

Wow! Here I had thought that he was drafted by Saints, and that they kept him on active 53 rather than send him to PS!!!

My bad. Good catch!

Not drafted by anyone - signed as a UDFA with the Redskins.

[JCTexan]

Originally Posted by GP

My immediate gut instinct says Grimes to the PS.

I don't see Kubiak doing away with precedent, and the precedent has been that the Texans carry 3 RBs. Well, that might not be true. I seem to remember back in the Ahman Green or Ron Dayne era here that we ended up having only two RBs on a game day roster for some reason, and they both got dinged up and one of them is out there hobbling around because there was nobody else left to pull RB duty.

Maybe I'm wrong though. I know that one time last year, Foster was banged up and Ward got banged up (a blow to the head or something), and I think Ben Tate or Chris O. ended up being the only RB we had for the rest of a game. IIRC.

But I don't see us carrying more than 3 RBs, and IIRC the only guy out of the four RBs who is PS eligible is Grimes. And frankly, teams tend to not poach other teams' 53-man cutdown guys...so a guy like Grimes (who is raw in terms of NFL experience, just like other teams' version of Grimes right now) will likely pass waivers and hit our PS squad where he can be called up if any of our starting three RBs get banged up on a Sunday in the reg season.

I think Case Keenum, if he has a decent preseason and looks like Chase Daniel did for the Saints a few years back, will be poached off waivers if we try to get Case to the PS. But Grimes? I think he is a PS guy all the way, IMO.

Fair enough. I just like the benefit of keeping Grimes over a #6 WR (namely Bryant Johnson), and I think it could end-up being costly risking Grimes to the PS down the line.

[Brandon420tx]

I think the only way we lose Grimes is if he explodes in one of the pre-season games and makes the league take notice. Every team has young players who look good in camp but don't warrant a spot from the vets and go to the PS and most teams just look to their own PS.

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by ChampionTexan

Not drafted by anyone - signed as a UDFA with the Redskins.

Just as keenum was an UDFA....

Perhaps he is P/S stashable.

[rmartin65]

So when are the cut dates? Ball has to be gone in the first round of cuts.

Decided not to be lazy and googled it- the 28th is the cut down to 80, and the 2nd is the cut to 53.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3818981

[amazing80]

Look for Grimes to get a ride to Texans IR Resort this pre-season with a questionable injury. It seems every year a talented rookie (or one we have high hopes for) lands on IR with a goofy injury or phantom injury just so teams cannot claim them off the PS