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Old 06-27-2012   #61
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An offense with Dre on one side, Plax on the other, KW in the slot, Casey/OD lined up as full back and then motioning out to the slot, with Arian at RB, and Matt at QB? Dre and Plax stretch the defense to the breaking point and then KW/Casey/OD/Arian rip its heart out.

I would not mind that.
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If the Texans sign him to anything more than the veteran minimum, he is likely to cost them, roughly, a 5th round compensatory pick in next year's draft... I'm sure that is an issue if they have interest in bringing him in.
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Randy Moss is an example of what happens when good players find ways to limit their own success with new teams.

With the Patriots and Titans, Randy Moss blew it big time.

Burress could come here and fall apart trying to learn the offense and being forced to play within its limits. He could just as easily do really well, though, but still...it's not a lock that the guy comes here and picks up the offense and performs as well as some think.

And nobody knows that his asking price is low all of a sudden. I thought that there was a vet minimum anyways, which means he's not going to be had for a few hundred thousand dollars like rookies are.
Yeah kind of like T.O. when he moved from the 49ers to Philly.

Didn't Philly make the SB T.O. 1st yr in Philly. We dont need somebody like that.

And no I dont want the Texans to sign T.O.
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If the Texans sign him to anything more than the veteran minimum, he is likely to cost them, roughly, a 5th round compensatory pick in next year's draft... I'm sure that is an issue if they have interest in bringing him in.
The period for determining compensatory picks has come and gone. Anyone signed by the Texans (or any other NFL team for that matter) on June 1st or later will have no impact on the compensatory pick calculations. For this reason, neither Alan Ball nor Justion Forsett have any potential to negatively impact those picks.
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An offense with Dre on one side, Plax on the other, KW in the slot, Casey/OD lined up as full back and then motioning out to the slot, with Arian at RB, and Matt at QB? Dre and Plax stretch the defense to the breaking point and then KW/Casey/OD/Arian rip its heart out.

I would not mind that.
I see the bolded not so much OD at FB. Don't see Kubes risking injury to his QBs without a big FB blocking.
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I see the bolded not so much OD at FB. Don't see Kubes risking injury to his QBs without a big FB blocking.
Huh? We did this all the time last year. Line up OD in the backfield and then motion him out and go without a FB blocking. We also did the opposite, lining OD up outside and then bringing him into the backfield lined up like a FB. Kubes does lots of stuff like that.
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Hey my brother, I'm pretty sure the run game is not where we need help. Where need help is another deep threat receiver to take away from double and in times triple teams on Dre...

Is Plax that guy?? I have no idea, but I'm pretty sure his persona as an "alpha dog" falls short of being second fiddle to Dre. Let's look inward to recent draft choices including Jeff Maehl (sp?) or Posey... Yes???
He helps the run game by requiring the defense to cover him. Jacoby was never able to do that, and I don't think they will be scared of KW. Put a 6'5 Plaxico on the opposite side of AJ, and the opposing safeties will be watching for the pass, not the run. A guy that big is tough for a 5'10 CB to cover. KW would be in the slot, which I think is a good spot for him.

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The only thing that worries me, is that he's 35. At that age, you might have it one day, & not the next. If he comes into camp & can still run a 4.5 forty, I'd sign him. But what are the odds......


a 3 or 4.. in this offense? He's not much good for Andre unless he's pushing Walter for playing time...... at #2. If he can't do that, I'd just as soon get the kids (Keshawn & DeVier) out there & let them compete for Walters job.
It really doesn't cost the team much to bring him in on a vet minimum deal for at least training camp. I think a vet like him would be more useful in the passing game than a couple rookies.
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Huh? We did this all the time last year. Line up OD in the backfield and then motion him out and go without a FB blocking. We also did the opposite, lining OD up outside and then bringing him into the backfield lined up like a FB. Kubes does lots of stuff like that.
Uh, Kubes coming back with foot injury after missing several games. I stand by my statement.
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Uh, Kubes coming back with foot injury after missing several games. I stand by my statement.
I don't care what the situation is with Kubes foot. You will see several formations where there is only a halfback in the backfield. Arian & Ben aren't chopped liver in pass pro, they know their job.
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cheddar bomb?? lol sounds like a dish at chili's...

its chedder bob...
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How do you know what he's asking? The dude is 34 and had an average season on a team with an average QB. He really shouldn't garner more than vet min plus incentives.
If he's the WR you think he is, the guy he's being built up as, then why isn't he already on one of the 32 NFL teams by now?

Answer: His asking price.
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If he's the WR you think he is, the guy he's being built up as, then why isn't he already on one of the 32 NFL teams by now?

Answer: His asking price.
Again, Rosenhaus.
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If the Texans sign him to anything more than the veteran minimum, he is likely to cost them, roughly, a 5th round compensatory pick in next year's draft... I'm sure that is an issue if they have interest in bringing him in.
Seriously? lol. I highly doubt it. Teams don't shy away from making moves due to possible loss of comp picks the following year. I'd be surprised if a team even mention comp picks until the season was over with.
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Yeah kind of like T.O. when he moved from the 49ers to Philly.

Didn't Philly make the SB T.O. 1st yr in Philly. We dont need somebody like that.

And no I dont want the Texans to sign T.O.
The main debate is really the asking price of Burress.

If he's this all-world guy who would help any team out there, then there's a reason he's not on one of those teams: Asking price.

Either that, or teams don't think he has the goods anymore.
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I was hoping they would have signed him last year. If he's not asking for an outrageous contract I think it would be good to give him a shot. This guy make some incredible catches last year for the Jets.
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I don't care what the situation is with Kubes foot. You will see several formations where there is only a halfback in the backfield. Arian & Ben aren't chopped liver in pass pro, they know their job.
That is not what I think you said. You indicated you wanted OD or Casey to be the FB. I don't like that as in many situations the defense will blitz and I don't want either of those having to pick up blitz. For that matter, until Matt is more certain I want a big old FB not a h-back blocking. Most of us agree Schaub being healthy is key to a deep playoff drive. Why put him at risk?
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if he is signed, would he replace Walter as the #2 wr or become the #3 slot receiver? I feel like the wr in the slot should be a speedy fast guy who can stretch the field of play.
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If he's this all-world guy who would help any team out there, then there's a reason he's not on one of those teams: Asking price.
That's fine. The longer this plays out, the better for us.

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That is not what I think you said. You indicated you wanted OD or Casey to be the FB. I don't like that as in many situations the defense will blitz and I don't want either of those having to pick up blitz. For that matter, until Matt is more certain I want a big old FB not a h-back blocking. Most of us agree Schaub being healthy is key to a deep playoff drive. Why put him at risk?
first, wasn't me.


second, what he did say was that Casey/OD would line up as the FB, then motion out to the slot. This will almost guarantee that you'll take someone out of an 8 or 7 man front.

He went on to say that OD & Casey have both played from the FB position & I in particular have no apprehensions about them picking up the blitz anyway.
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The main debate is really the asking price of Burress.

If he's this all-world guy who would help any team out there, then there's a reason he's not on one of those teams: Asking price.

Either that, or teams don't think he has the goods anymore.
I would like to know who thinks he's an all world guy. I think at this point in his career most would agree that he's solid, with the potential of showing great flashes at certain times.
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