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Old 06-26-2012   #121
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2 years for 4.3 million, plus the compensatory pick you could get when he leaves is pretty good if you ask me.
Enjoy the 2 years, because after that he'll be un-signable.

Plus, he doesn't suit our offense. This offense is Foster/Tate and then a myriad of passing plays that target AJ or the soup de jour TE (whomever that is on any given Sunday).

I respect the guy's game. I don't even think he's the "cancer" some people have said he is. My problem is (a) not exactly the prototypical Kubiak WR, for what we do, and (b) what happens after two years and he wants big boy money?

Plus, Minnesota doesn't even want to trade him. He's all they have right now.

Just too many adverse variables to make the equation work.
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Oh, yeah. GMs always tell the truth.
He's their best weapon on offense. AP is trying to come back, but it's not a done deal that AP returns to previous form in 2012.

Why would they trade their best asset going into 2012?
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He's their best weapon on offense. AP is trying to come back, but it's not a done deal that AP returns to previous form in 2012.

Why would they trade their best asset going into 2012?
I wasn't saying they would. All I'm saying is that using a GM's comments as facts about who they will or will not trade is crazy-talk because it's a GM's job to lie through his teeth.

If Spielman sees a deal where he can trade Harvin and improve his team, he'll trade him in a second.
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I wasn't saying they would. All I'm saying is that using a GM's comments as facts about who they will or will not trade is crazy-talk because it's a GM's job to lie through his teeth.

If Spielman sees a deal where he can trade Harvin and improve his team, he'll trade him in a second.
Agreed.

They'd need a WR for starters, though. LOL.
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Enjoy the 2 years, because after that he'll be un-signable.
What?? That's the point, we get him for 2 years in the midst of a Super Bowl run. He's worth it to put us over the top.

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Plus, he doesn't suit our offense. This offense is Foster/Tate and then a myriad of passing plays that target AJ or the soup de jour TE (whomever that is on any given Sunday).
Yeah, if AJ makes it the whole season without missing a game, I will be surprised. We need a contingency plan for him, because without him our vertical game will go into the toilet. Harvin may not be the best #1 WR, but he's better than what we got. For a 2nd, I'd do it in no time.

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I respect the guy's game. I don't even think he's the "cancer" some people have said he is. My problem is (a) not exactly the prototypical Kubiak WR, for what we do, and (b) what happens after two years and he wants big boy money?

Plus, Minnesota doesn't even want to trade him. He's all they have right now.

Just too many adverse variables to make the equation work.
a) who cares about prototypical size? Jacoby had it and wasn't very useful in the passing game. Kubiak is smart enough to find uses for him. Harvin would get several touches a game and be effective.
b) you let him walk and get a compensatory pick for him. Or maybe you franchise tag him and entice him to stay. Either way the two years with him will be better than without him.

If we are truly making a Super Bowl run, then we need to get every advantage possible. Harvin's contract makes him a good fit for us. I'd gladly send a 2nd and Martin or Posey to the Vikings for him.
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2 years would give us more time to find legitimate replacements for our starting wideouts. I'd worry about what price ph wants 2 years from now. Truth be told, if he were here and he foundout how a real offense operates, he might decide its in his best interest to stay.
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2 years would give us more time to find legitimate replacements for our starting wideouts. I'd worry about what price ph wants 2 years from now. Truth be told, if he were here and he foundout how a real offense operates, he might decide its in his best interest to stay.
Harvin at the very least buys the Texans 2 yrs to develop Posey.

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Plus, he doesn't suit our offense. This offense is Foster/Tate and then a myriad of passing plays that target AJ or the soup de jour TE (whomever that is on any given Sunday).
You know what else doesn't suit our offense? 335 lb o-linemen. Oh wait, we've got that dont we? To say ph wouldnt fit here is a slight to one of the best offensive minds in the game (kubes).
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I see Kubes as a guy, like Wade, who knows his system so well that he can take talented guys that don't fit in the system and still put the guy in a good place to succeed. As long as the player does what Kubes tells him to do when he tells him to do it.

He has guys he prefers but he'll take a talented guy or a guy who's got some upside and find a way to make him fit. I mean, Darius Walker and Wali Lundy both looked like they could have been pro running backs at one point.
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Just thought I would bump this thread.

Not that the Vikes wanted to trade him. But Harvin is playing at an MVP level. Sure would have looked good opposite Dre. Certianly worth a 1st rd pick.
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Just thought I would bump this thread.

Not that the Vikes wanted to trade him. But Harvin is playing at an MVP level. Sure would have looked good opposite Dre. Certianly worth a 1st rd pick.
Thats no Lie.... That would have been 2 MVP caliber players on one team
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