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Old 05-23-2012   #1
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Earliest ever but several have asked for my thoughts/opinions.
A. Schaub will leave regardless of 2012 season & Yates will start '13. Keenum will be #2. No QB on my board as of today.
B. D.Brown gets $ from Ryans,& Demeco & re-signs.
C. R. Butler gets $ from JJ and Briesel to re-sign.
D. Barwin leaves after great season. We draft OLB (again).
E. Shawn Cody is not re-signed.
F. Posey is or is not successful, we still draft a replacement for WR1 to train.

1. WR Da'Rick Rogers Tennesse (junior) 6'3" 215 He is noted to have "issues" but facts are the 2010 disorderly conduct & resisting arrest after a cop was knocked out were dismissed. He had a run in with strength coach & threatened him & was banned from off season activities for two weeks. Never suspended. Coach McKeefery was in his first year with Tenn & is a former Army performance coordinator Special Forces so may be a tad gung ho. Also note that Tenn Vols hired 7 new assistants. I think Rogers will do fine but expect him to enter draft after this season. He might be better than any WR in 2012 draft.

See this link on his 40 speed: http://www.eagleseyeblog.com/2012-ar...at-counts.html

Back in 2009, as expected, several prospects stood out. One of these young men, wide receiver Da'Rick Rogers, ran a blistering 4.34 40-yard dash at a mind boggling 6'2, 197-lbs. *Note this is a hand held device.

2. FS Robert Lester Alabama 6' 210 4.51 I had him as a late first 2012 after a 8INTs 2010. He "dropped off" 2011: 2 INTs but was close on others. He plays excellent (continued)
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center field with some ball hawking skills.

3a LG/OT Alvin Bailey Arkansas 6'5" 319
3b OLB Devin Taylor South Carolina 6'7" 248 4.69

4. RB Christine Michaels Texas A&M 5'11" 215 4.48 played in only 8 games prior to injury 149/899 yds (6.0) 8 TDs receiving: 13/174 & 2010 good stats

5a DT/DE Baker Steinkuhler (Dad was 8 year Oiler vet Dean) Nebraska (Crick's teammate) 6'6" 290 4.97
5b (Briesel) ILB Andrew Jackson Western Kentucky 6'1" 262 4.72 109 T, 17 TFL, 3.5 sacks, 1 INT, 1 FF A physical hitter.

6. NT Mister Cobble Kentucky 6' 330 known as a "bowling ball". I became aware of him last season and is reportedly very quick despite his size. Probably a PS guy if Mitchell and Fangupo do well. I'd not be opposed to Mitchell replacing A. Smith eventually.
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1. Rogers, I like the player and position chosen, would definitely add quality talent to the WR corp.. I'm thinking he's the new #2 WR and Walter is gone after the 2012 season. Posey is the new #3 in the slot.
2. Lester, very good player that would add some quality depth but I just don't forsee the need at FS yet. Are we losing Manning or Quin?
3. Bailey, I don't know anything about the player but I'm guessing you want him to replace Wade Smith, great size for the position. Maybe.
3b. Taylor, it would really suck to lose Barwin but if he has another great year he'll be very expensive in FA. I can understand a depth pick here. Getting a 3rd round comp. pick for Mario will be key next year as I think we'll have alot of holes to fill next year in the draft.
4. Michaels, good size, speed, and productivity as a possible replacement for Tate a year early. Hopefully we trade Tate and get something of value for him.
5. Steinkuhler, is he a depth pick when either Crick or Jameson take Antonio Smith's spot on the D-line?
5b. Jackson, I don't know anything about the player yet but don't really forsee the need for depth at ILB yet.
6. Cobble, PS emergency NT behind Mitchell and Fangupo, I can see that. I like Mitchell at NT especially with his added bulk. I just don't think Mitchell is quick enough for DE duties to replace Smith.

Nice job, definitely adds some talent and depth. I'm working on a terribly early 2013 mock as well, I'll post in a few days, still working on positions.
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1. Rogers, I like the player and position chosen, would definitely add quality talent to the WR corp.. I'm thinking he's the new #2 WR and Walter is gone after the 2012 season. Posey is the new #3 in the slot. Agree
2. Lester, very good player that would add some quality depth but I just don't forsee the need at FS yet. Are we losing Manning or Quin? Strengthening the position for now & eliminating backups. Manning may be gone 2013.
3. Bailey, I don't know anything about the player but I'm guessing you want him to replace Wade Smith, great size for the position. Maybe. Smith gone after 2012, someone better replace him
3b. Taylor, it would really suck to lose Barwin but if he has another great year he'll be very expensive in FA. I can understand a depth pick here. Getting a 3rd round comp. pick for Mario will be key next year as I think we'll have alot of holes to fill next year in the draft.
4. Michaels, good size, speed, and productivity as a possible replacement for Tate a year early. Hopefully we trade Tate and get something of value for him. not interested in trading Tate who leaves after 2013.
5. Steinkuhler, is he a depth pick when either Crick or Jameson take Antonio Smith's spot on the D-line? Folks focusing on Crick versus Jamison but Steinkuhler may be better than both
5b. Jackson, I don't know anything about the player yet but don't really forsee the need for depth at ILB yet. Brady James has 1 year deal so draft his replacement or at least Sharpton's
6. Cobble, PS emergency NT behind Mitchell and Fangupo, I can see that. I like Mitchell at NT especially with his added bulk. I just don't think Mitchell is quick enough for DE duties to replace Smith.

Nice job, definitely adds some talent and depth. I'm working on a terribly early 2013 mock as well, I'll post in a few days, still working on positions.
Respnse in bold & look forward to your mock.
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Hell of a mock for being this early!

Rodgers- I love this pick. I forget which thread it was in, but I pointed this guy out as an early target for the Texans. Big, strong, fast, he has it all. He drops due to a lack of hype and off the field issues.

Lester- Will he be here? If so, I like it. Depth is important, and really behind Manning we dont have a guy who can start in case of emergency.

Bailey- Depth on the OL is always good. I dont know a lot about the player, but I like the position.

Taylor- Again, I like going the position. OLB will likely be taken in just about every draft at some point, and Taylor is a good one. It would suck to lose Barwin, but it is a possibility.

Michaels- I cant get on board with this one. I dont think a RB will be taken, as I doubt Tate goes anywhere, and I really like Meggett for the 3rd RB role. Still shocked he went UDFA. Now, even if we needed to grabe a RB, there are other guys I like around this area- Burkhead from Nebraska in particular.

Steinkuhler- Yet again, depth. I like it, though I dont know much about the player.

Jackson- I really like going ILB, but I would have addressed it earlier. James and Dobbins are stop gaps, and I just dont think Sharpton is a starting caliber player. However, around this slot Larrimore from UCLA has me intrigued.

Cobble- Sign me up
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To get Rodgers you better be willing to do a ATL/Cleve trade. Rodgers is going in the top 5 after he tests out at the combine.

Give me one of the top QB's if we're going to make that type of trade.

Franchise QB is a must if Schaub cant stay healthy.
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Here's my terribly early 2013 mock draft. Obviously most or all of this will change numerous times between now and April 2013, it's almost laughable to do a mock this early and I found it harder to do than our final 2012 mocks. Mine is based on Schaub, Brown, and Barwin staying. I think there's a real good chance Antonio Smith, Rashad Butler, Kevin Walter, Owen Daniels, Bradie James, and Sean Cody are gone after the 2012 season.

1. DaRick Rogers-WR, new #2 WR after Kevin Walter leaves and adds starter level quality to the WR corp. Maybe Walter stays for a year since he renegotiated his contract to a lower price.
2. Sharrif Floyd-DE, this could actually be our biggest need to fill next off season as I see Antonio Smith gone after 2012. I know Floyd is currently listed as a 3-4 round pick but I think by April he'll be much higher. Adds some size to the LDE position.
3. Kyle Fuller-CB, adds some quality depth to our young CB corp. and solidifies it for the next few years.
3b. Jake Stoneburner-TE, this was the hardest pick to make. I'd really like a better quality TE since I think there's a decent chance OD could be gone after next season but I'm just not impressed with next years group of TE's. This pick could easily change.
4. Xavier Nixon-OT, this guys got talent and speed but lacks bulk. Adding some weight shouldn't be hard on his 6'06" frame. Rashad Butler leaves and Newton takes his place with Nixon as the new swing OT. This year in college and next year as OT depth will give him the time to add some bulk. He could easily go much higher than this if he has a great year.
5. Nico Johnson-ILB, quality rotational ILB to replace Bradie James and has great size. He also could go much higher if he has a great year.
5b. Sheldon Richardson-DT, Sean Cody leaves and Richardson and Fangupo compete for the DT rotation spot with Mitchell. Needs to add some bulk but again that shouldn't be hard for these young guys.
6. Braden Hansen-OG, good size and skill for the position, improves our OG depth. If he has a good year he also could go higher than this.
7. Rashard Hall-FS, size, speed, and experience. Pushes Nolan and Demps for a backup spot.

Well there it is, my first terribly early 2013 mock. This should make for a good laugh 11 months from now.
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Hell of a mock for being this early!

Rodgers- I love this pick. I forget which thread it was in, but I pointed this guy out as an early target for the Texans. Big, strong, fast, he has it all. He drops due to a lack of hype and off the field issues.

Lester- Will he be here? If so, I like it. Depth is important, and really behind Manning we dont have a guy who can start in case of emergency.

Bailey- Depth on the OL is always good. I dont know a lot about the player, but I like the position.

Taylor- Again, I like going the position. OLB will likely be taken in just about every draft at some point, and Taylor is a good one. It would suck to lose Barwin, but it is a possibility.

Michaels- I cant get on board with this one. I dont think a RB will be taken, as I doubt Tate goes anywhere, and I really like Meggett for the 3rd RB role. Still shocked he went UDFA. Now, even if we needed to grabe a RB, there are other guys I like around this area- Burkhead from Nebraska in particular.

Steinkuhler- Yet again, depth. I like it, though I dont know much about the player.

Jackson- I really like going ILB, but I would have addressed it earlier. James and Dobbins are stop gaps, and I just dont think Sharpton is a starting caliber player. However, around this slot Larrimore from UCLA has me intrigued.

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Thanks 65. Yeah I remember responding to your post on Rogers in that thread as your comment were right on target. My concern is he will rise out of our reach but there are about 6 WRs that should go first round (as of now) & hopefully we can get him.

Lester is ranked #62 by CBS NFLdraftscout so is in position to be there. I do predict he will have a good season and may not be there round 2.

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To get Rodgers you better be willing to do a ATL/Cleve trade. Rodgers is going in the top 5 after he tests out at the combine.

Give me one of the top QB's if we're going to make that type of trade.

Franchise QB is a must if Schaub cant stay healthy.
You definietly could be correct.
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Here's my terribly early 2013 mock draft. Obviously most or all of this will change numerous times between now and April 2013, it's almost laughable to do a mock this early and I found it harder to do than our final 2012 mocks. Mine is based on Schaub, Brown, and Barwin staying. I think there's a real good chance Antonio Smith, Rashad Butler, Kevin Walter, Owen Daniels, Bradie James, and Sean Cody are gone after the 2012 season.

1. DaRick Rogers-WR, new #2 WR after Kevin Walter leaves and adds starter level quality to the WR corp. Maybe Walter stays for a year since he renegotiated his contract to a lower price.
2. Sharrif Floyd-DE, this could actually be our biggest need to fill next off season as I see Antonio Smith gone after 2012. I know Floyd is currently listed as a 3-4 round pick but I think by April he'll be much higher. Adds some size to the LDE position.
3. Kyle Fuller-CB, adds some quality depth to our young CB corp. and solidifies it for the next few years.
3b. Jake Stoneburner-TE, this was the hardest pick to make. I'd really like a better quality TE since I think there's a decent chance OD could be gone after next season but I'm just not impressed with next years group of TE's. This pick could easily change.
4. Xavier Nixon-OT, this guys got talent and speed but lacks bulk. Adding some weight shouldn't be hard on his 6'06" frame. Rashad Butler leaves and Newton takes his place with Nixon as the new swing OT. This year in college and next year as OT depth will give him the time to add some bulk. He could easily go much higher than this if he has a great year.
5. Nico Johnson-ILB, quality rotational ILB to replace Bradie James and has great size. He also could go much higher if he has a great year.
5b. Sheldon Richardson-DT, Sean Cody leaves and Richardson and Fangupo compete for the DT rotation spot with Mitchell. Needs to add some bulk but again that shouldn't be hard for these young guys.
6. Braden Hansen-OG, good size and skill for the position, improves our OG depth. If he has a good year he also could go higher than this.
7. Rashard Hall-FS, size, speed, and experience. Pushes Nolan and Demps for a backup spot.

Well there it is, my first terribly early 2013 mock. This should make for a good laugh 11 months from now.
#2 DE, I think Jamison and Crick will have a season to show us what they can do. Unless they fail, my opinion is use a later round "high risk, high reward" on DE. That was my thinking with Steinkuhler. Your 3, 4 & 7 are on my radar also but think Hall may move up. Enjoyed the read. Good work!
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I really can't even wrap my head around a mock at this point...

Right now it's just a good list of guys to look at and pay attention to for me...
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I really can't even wrap my head around a mock at this point...

Right now it's just a good list of guys to look at and pay attention to for me...
something to do while waiting for college season & to exchange players to follow. Hopefully, all 2012 draft selections will start & reduce needs for 2013......
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Right now it's just a good list of guys to look at and pay attention to for me...
That's exactly what these mocks are this time of year, just guys to keep an eye on next college season, and like BB said something to pass the time.
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here is another 2013 mock that I've not seen before. If OL Barrett Jones Alabama (taken by Detroit #24) falls to us, I think he'd be my pick. Dude is very good at OT & OG and is to play center this year.

26. Houston Texans
Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU*
Has a quick first step, but will need to add bulk to be more than a rush specialist. Mingo could be the Aldon Smith of the 2013 NFL Draft.

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here is another 2013 mock that I've not seen before. If OL Barrett Jones Alabama (taken by Detroit #24) falls to us, I think he'd be my pick. Dude is very good at OT & OG and is to play center this year.

26. Houston Texans
Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU*
Has a quick first step, but will need to add bulk to be more than a rush specialist. Mingo could be the Aldon Smith of the 2013 NFL Draft.

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What if Barwin leaves as a free agent? I have Mingo going way before us anyway.
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Barwin, Brown & Schaub will all be resigned. mark it down & adjust accordingly.
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Barwin, Brown & Schaub will all be resigned. mark it down & adjust accordingly.
I just don't see how they can afford that especially if Schaub and Barwin have good years. Brown may go to pro bowl & is most important to re-sign imo.
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I just don't see how they can afford that especially if Schaub and Barwin have good years. Brown may go to pro bowl & is most important to re-sign imo.
the one who worries me is Cushing. he is elite with most market value. Texans can afford the three mentioned stretching out to Cushing however may be too much, but I stand by my words; Barwin, Brown & Schaub will remain Texans
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I just don't see how they can afford that especially if Schaub and Barwin have good years. Brown may go to pro bowl & is most important to re-sign imo.
I agree with BL, Brown, Barwin, and Schaub will be the primary targets to be re-signed and I think Smith will succeed, all will be back. I think they'll find the money by making salary cap cuts to Antonio Smith, and then possibly Sean Cody, OD, Kevin Walter, Antoine Caldwell, Wade Smith, and Rashad Butler. I don't know if they'll all go but I'll bet that several will. They can also save some money by replacing James or Dobbins at ILB with a 3-5 round rookie from next years draft since that position will rotate out of the game so often. Hopefully we also get an injury discount from Schaub who hopefully also knows that we'll be trying to re-sign his primary blind side protection. I think next years offseason has the possibility to have alot more cost saving cuts than this years. This will be where Rick Smith earns his money and shows us if he's stepped up to the level of the upper echelon GM's or not.
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