Football Gameplan's 2012 Draft Grades Video - Houston Texans

[Wolf6151]

Originally Posted by Corrosion

You obviously didnt do your homework on this pick prior to posting the opinion.


Where was Prior last season when in the three games Posey played he put up numbers comparable to those the two prior seasons.

I'm not sure what Posey's numbers were the 2 previous seasons but in 3 games last season he had 162 yds. of productivity, an average of 54 yds. per game. IMO, not what I'd call good productivity.

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by Wolf6151

I'm not sure what Posey's numbers were the 2 previous seasons but in 3 games last season he had 162 yds. of productivity, an average of 54 yds. per game. IMO, not what I'd call good productivity.

In one of the most run heavy offenses in the nation ? You have to view those numbers in the context of the offense.


Full season 09 - 60 rec , 828 yards , 13.8 avg , long 62 , TD 8

316 total passing attempts Vs 563 rushing attempts in 2009.

In 2009 Posey had 60 receptions leading the team - Second was Dane Sanzenbacher (Now with the Bears) with 36.


Full season 10 - 53 rec , 848 yards , 16.0 avg , long 62 , TD 7

349 passing attempts Vs 547 rushing attempts in 2010


Three games 11 - 12 rec , 162 yards , 13.5 avg , long 43 , TD 2.

245 passing attempts Vs 563 rushing attempts in 2011.

In 2011 OSU's leading reciever (Devin Smith) had 14 catches over the course of the season , Posey had 12 in the final three games.

[Playoffs]

Ohio State ended 2011 ranked 115th out of 127 in FBS passing offense...

My question: Why did one of the top WR recruits in the country choose Ohio State?

[The Pencil Neck]

Originally Posted by Playoffs

Ohio State ended 2011 ranked 115th out of 127 in FBS passing offense...

My question: Why did one of the top WR recruits in the country choose Ohio State?

Cause he's from Ohio?

[Dutchrudder]

Originally Posted by Corrosion

In one of the most run heavy offenses in the nation ?

I think that is the reason he was so highly rated by the Texans. He can block pretty well on the edges, so he should be able to fit right in to the Texan's "block first, catch later" WR scheme.

[Rey]

Originally Posted by Playoffs

Ohio State ended 2011 ranked 115th out of 127 in FBS passing offense...

My question: Why did one of the top WR recruits in the country choose Ohio State?

They paid the most.

[SAMURAITEXAN]

Em, thanks for your video as always. We both missed on 1st rd choice(WR) but, I am happy with our actual draft choices. Keep eye on our UDFAs. We signed really good players and I think most talented UDFA group ever for Texans.

Go Texans!!!

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

Cause he's from Ohio?

What kid from Cincinnati wouldnt want to go to OSU ..... Kinda like a kid from Texas going to UT.

Tho he could have made a better choice according to his position .... It worked out for him in the end.

Originally Posted by Dutchrudder

I think that is the reason he was so highly rated by the Texans. He can block pretty well on the edges, so he should be able to fit right in to the Texan's "block first, catch later" WR scheme.

Quite possible that had something to do with it .... but he runs really good routes , has great hands and beat double teams often. Had he played his Sr year in full , I have little doubt that he would have gone before some of the "more highly rated WR prospects" in the draft .....

[EmDiggy]

Originally Posted by SAMURAITEXAN

Em, thanks for your video as always. We both missed on 1st rd choice(WR) but, I am happy with our actual draft choices. Keep eye on our UDFAs. We signed really good players and I think most talented UDFA group ever for Texans.

Go Texans!!!

THANKS Samurai!! I'm a HUGE advocate for UDFAs...there's way too many talented players that get overlooked each and every year!

[infantrycak]

Originally Posted by EmDiggy

Emmitt had tremendous vision and balance... he would've been great in any offense.

I'm a huge Emmitt fan. In addition he had great short space movement which goes along with the balance you mention and the best hand use I have ever seen - redirecting arms as people tried to tackle him.

The point was sometimes people with legitimate talent get discounted because they happen to be behind a good OL. Obviously that helps but for instance our OL got their butts beat on a near our own goal line play last year against Pittsburgh and Foster juked Polomalu out of his shorts behind the line of scrimmage.(he did it again later in the open field). Overall Foster benefited from a really good OL. He also made plays all on his own.

[badboy]

Originally Posted by 76Texan

Also, I had mentioned that Posey should have had at least another couple of TDs last year and some 150-200 addl' yards if his QBs can only be Jefferson and Lee (the 2 LSU QBs).

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Another receiver that hardly saw double coverage is Wright; I don't think I ever saw one instance.

As the 2nd leading WR in yardage that just seems to be stupidity on the DCs.

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by infantrycak

I'm a huge Emmitt fan. In addition he had great short space movement which goes along with the balance you mention and the best hand use I have ever seen - redirecting arms as people tried to tackle him.

The point was sometimes people with legitimate talent get discounted because they happen to be behind a good OL. Obviously that helps but for instance our OL got their butts beat on a near our own goal line play last year against Pittsburgh and Foster juked Polomalu out of his shorts behind the line of scrimmage.(he did it again later in the open field). Overall Foster benefited from a really good OL. He also made plays all on his own.

The OP has less credability with me than Anna Megan ....

[Rey]

Originally Posted by 76Texan

I'm pretty sure Posey saw more double coverage than Randle or Dwight Jones. In fact, I'm sure of it.

There is no way you can be sure of that. You'd have to have coaches footage from every game they all played and then you'd still have to guess on some plays.

You say some good things then you say something like this and I just scratch my head.

[EmDiggy]

Originally Posted by infantrycak

I'm a huge Emmitt fan. In addition he had great short space movement which goes along with the balance you mention and the best hand use I have ever seen - redirecting arms as people tried to tackle him.

The point was sometimes people with legitimate talent get discounted because they happen to be behind a good OL. Obviously that helps but for instance our OL got their butts beat on a near our own goal line play last year against Pittsburgh and Foster juked Polomalu out of his shorts behind the line of scrimmage.(he did it again later in the open field). Overall Foster benefited from a really good OL. He also made plays all on his own.

I think Polomalu's pride is still lying on the Reliant Stadium grass.. LOL

[EmDiggy]

Originally Posted by Corrosion

The OP has less credability with me than Anna Megan ....

Glad you like!

So, if you saw me on TV would that sway your view of me? *side eye*

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by EmDiggy

Glad you like!

So, if you saw me on TV would that sway your view of me? *side eye*

At least you have a sense of humor .....


Seeing you on TV wouldnt mean a thing to me ..... If you are insinuating that I listen to the talking heads in the media .... you'd be wrong , as my sources for Texans news are better than .... John McLain's tho thats not saying a whole lot since his sources all left town for Hillbilly Holler. All he has left are the voices in his head .....

[beerlover]

I think you did a decent job overall with exception of Posey, but if he reads this stuff(?) & it gives him added incentive (your not alone) then this could be good news for Texans. The difference I see in Posey is he fills the #2 WR position opposite Andre, because he can create separation & do those little things underneath that true #2's are suppose to & if the defense sleeps on him he can burn them deep too, so eventually with more production he will draw defenses away from Andre Johnson.

Also a starting caliber kicker to replace Rackers should get some mention.

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by Rey

There is no way you can be sure of that. You'd have to have coaches footage from every game they all played and then you'd still have to guess on some plays.

You say some good things then you say something like this and I just scratch my head.

Maybe it was an overstatement. Maybe not!

What I can tell you is that it was one of the things I kept an eye on this last draft as I concentrated mostly on the QBs and receivers.

It figures in part why I wasn't impressed with Randle.

I learned about the QBs, I learned about the offense, I learned about the defense they faced. I learned about the DBs, the scheme, the pass rush.

I'm ready to bring up plenty of examples because I have started to note them when one of our board members drafted Randle in the Texans mock draft.

[76Texan]

Trust me Rey, I work hard to do my homework.

The guy who partially benefited from Posey was an UDFA the previous year, but now he was able to get a good contract.

If you watch enough Buckeyes games in 2010, you would know that it wasn't mutual benificial.

Posey made the job easier for him, without a doubt.