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Old 05-02-2012   #41
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You're not the only one hoping that.

And as for LeStar Jean and his supposed "shoulder injury", did anyone happen to see the play in which he was "supposedly" injured?

I'm just wondering if Kubes "stashed" him on IR to keep him from being picked up on waivers, but I have nothing to base that on.
Yes you do.

Kubiak has been doing that since he's gotten here.
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I'd consider when it came down to it last season, they opted to try out Mason and Johnson late in the season as opposed to trying to promote the younger guys.

It wouldn't surprise me to see a guy like Johnson resigned while the others fight it out for the remaining spot(s). I just think Posey being drafted high gives him the inside track to stick. I didn't get to see any preseason action last yea, so I have no clue on the LeStar hype.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Bryant Johnson re-signed. I wouldn't be surprised for Kubiak to try to grab some other vet WR.

BUT...

Last year, he cut Mason with a few games left in the season and he brought up Maehl from the practice squad to take his place. So he did promote one of the younger guys last year at the expense of the younger guys. He couldn't promote Jean because Jean was lost to IR.
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what did we see from lestar though? one catch off a db who hasnt played in the reg season yet. i think we need to tone it down a bit.. a pro bowl WR??? calm down..
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It's a mix of French and English.
It means A Star or The Star.
I hope he's one, LOL!
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Bryant Johnson re-signed. I wouldn't be surprised for Kubiak to try to grab some other vet WR.

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Last year, he cut Mason with a few games left in the season and he brought up Maehl from the practice squad to take his place. So he did promote one of the younger guys last year at the expense of the younger guys. He couldn't promote Jean because Jean was lost to IR.
Good point, but I don't see it being his first call. I do think however, based off those two late season moves that they aren't likely going to sign someone who is going to push up the depth charts just like Mason or Johnson.

I just hope thismdoesn't end up like the disaster at cb that happpened when they let dunta walk and decided to go VERY young as well. Walter is going to be steady, but his drop off in production is going to push him to being a slot guy. He's physically much better suits for the spot anyway.

I really hope that either Posey or LeStar are ready to step in and produce in at least the #3 capacity. My other question is if Garrett Graham will be ready to step in where Dressen left off or do you think we look at adding another vet TE in the offseason? If Clark is healthy would you be opposed to bringing him in?
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I think Lester will eventually become a Pro Bowl WR. He has the size and the speed, i would love to see him and AJ on the field next season.

Ridiculous homerism. Wow.
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Good point, but I don't see it being his first call. I do think however, based off those two late season moves that they aren't likely going to sign someone who is going to push up the depth charts just like Mason or Johnson.

I just hope thismdoesn't end up like the disaster at cb that happpened when they let dunta walk and decided to go VERY young as well. Walter is going to be steady, but his drop off in production is going to push him to being a slot guy. He's physically much better suits for the spot anyway.

I really hope that either Posey or LeStar are ready to step in and produce in at least the #3 capacity. My other question is if Garrett Graham will be ready to step in where Dressen left off or do you think we look at adding another vet TE in the offseason? If Clark is healthy would you be opposed to bringing him in?
The thing that scares me about this is how reminiscent it is of the Kiddie Corners fiasco. There's just not a lot out there in FA. Braylon Edwards? Jabar Gaffney?

We've got to rely on at least 2 of these guys to step up. Or KW to rediscover his production from 4 years ago. That worries me. Especially if TJ is getting the playing time.

I don't know that GG is ready to step up. I expected something from him last year and, iirc, he had 1 catch all season. I think they've got to bring some FA TE in: Clark (if he's healthy), Shiancoe... (shudder) Shockey? This is why I expected us to pick up a TE in the draft: Fleener, Lardarius, or Hanna. Maybe one of the UDFAs can step up. Hell, maybe we can bring Dorin Dickerson back and play him at TE.

It just seems like we're expecting a lot from rooks and except for that Kiddie Corner thing, that's not Kubiak's normal MO.
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Has anyone seen Lestar "Big Play" Jean's website? http://www.bigplayjean.com/

Big Play has a whole 2 more catches than BasketCase Jones hahaha.

As for why the Tony Hollings comparison...he was the hope. This diamond in the rough, we outsmarted everyone and it's going to pay off. Big Play made 2 plays in the preseason. Hollings did the same thing. I learned the first time around. Prove it on the field then I'll believe. Lots of preseason wonders that never do anything; see Tony Hollings.
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1. AJ: It goes without saying.
2. KW: He's a starter and knows the system backwards and forwards

At this point, I think the rest of the spots are up for grabs. However, here is how I would do it.

3. Lestar Jean: Showed something in preseason. Had he been healthy he would have made the squad coming out of camp.

4. DeVier Posey. He was drafted in the third and was talked about highly, so he will get an opportunity to play.

5. Jeff Maehl: He actually got onto the squad in the later part of the season.

6. Keshawn Martin. He was drafted in the fourth and can be the kickoff/punt returner as well as play as a 6th WR. He is a bigger version of Trindon Holida

PS: Dwight Jones: He won't really get a chance since Jean, Posey, Maehl, and Martin will get the majority of reps in practice, camp, and preseason.
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I need more data. So I will at least wait until OTAs and see who distinguishes himself.

Who knows, maybe one of the younguns will bump Walter down the depth chart....
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I think they hope to start Martin.

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LestAr. With an A. Lestar.

I have a feeling this is going to be like Kevin Walters.
It's pronounced La-Star John. He might be better off in Burlesque. I forgot about Devier. Dayum, we got us some Frenchies.
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The thing that scares me about this is how reminiscent it is of the Kiddie Corners fiasco. There's just not a lot out there in FA. Braylon Edwards? Jabar Gaffney?

We've got to rely on at least 2 of these guys to step up. Or KW to rediscover his production from 4 years ago. That worries me. Especially if TJ is getting the playing time.

I don't know that GG is ready to step up. I expected something from him last year and, iirc, he had 1 catch all season. I think they've got to bring some FA TE in: Clark (if he's healthy), Shiancoe... (shudder) Shockey? This is why I expected us to pick up a TE in the draft: Fleener, Lardarius, or Hanna. Maybe one of the UDFAs can step up. Hell, maybe we can bring Dorin Dickerson back and play him at TE.

It just seems like we're expecting a lot from rooks and except for that Kiddie Corner thing, that's not Kubiak's normal MO.
I'm glad I am not to the only one who on one hand is really excited at the depth and talent we added to our WR corps, but on the other hand I'd feel a lot more comfortable if we added one more solid Vet to the group. Glad you also got the CB comparison as well.

If not at WR, I would like us to bring in a veteran TE, preferably a pass catching one as well. I'd really love to bring in Clark if he's healthy.

The offense clearly struggled at times last year without AJ, the good thing is we'll have a good ground game to rely on if nothing else. The fact that Dressen outproduced OD in the redzone concerns me as well. Though hopefully, OD will be 100% with a season under his belt after injuries.

I unlike others think KW will make the roster but, with a pretty significant drop in production the last couple of years....you've got to think even with the rooks in the mix the #2 spot will be up for grabs as well.
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