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Old 04-30-2012   #141
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like Clyde and Hakeem with the 95 Rockets or
Andy and Roger with the 05 Astros.

If Case succeeds, combined with locals Gary and Wade,
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the main negative on him is his measurables i.e. his lack of arm strength and his height
wtf?! are you serious?! Keenum can sling it out there
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wtf?! are you serious?! Keenum can sling it out there
I'm just saying what's reported I haven't seen him play enough to judge. Just some YouTube vids
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wtf?! are you serious?! Keenum can sling it out there
While I completely agree with you, he got a that knock (lack arm strength) from his Pro-Day. He had problems making certain throws, IIRC. So someone that has never really watched him play, up close and personal can only recite what they read somewhere or heard from a talking head.
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Like others, I'm pretty excited that we've got a local guy with a chance to be a quarterback on the team - that's a pretty rare thing in the NFL.

But it might save us some heartbreak later if we reel in expectations. Drew Brees' name is being thrown around a lot in here, but that's an unfair and lofty comparison to place on Keenum. Brees was drafted in the 2nd round, Keenum went undrafted, let's have him develop his skills and career his own way regardless of any similarities.

Also, it's a tad ironic that we often throw around the "Wade knows more about football then you" line suggesting that those with an official decision making position in the NFL automatically knows more, and thus any sort of conflicting view a fan may have doesn't hold merit. Yet, when every single franchise decides to pass on a quarterback through seven rounds of a draft, suddenly our opinion of a player holds incredible value.

I hope Keenum makes the team, but let's take it slow with this guy.
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Like others, I'm pretty excited that we've got a local guy with a chance to be a quarterback on the team - that's a pretty rare thing in the NFL.

But it might save us some heartbreak later if we reel in expectations. Drew Brees' name is being thrown around a lot in here, but that's an unfair and lofty comparison to place on Keenum. Brees was drafted in the 2nd round, Keenum went undrafted, let's have him develop his skills and career his own way regardless of any similarities.

Also, it's a tad ironic that we often throw around the "Wade knows more about football then you" line suggesting that those with an official decision making position in the NFL automatically knows more, and thus any sort of conflicting view a fan may have doesn't hold merit. Yet, when every single franchise decides to pass on a quarterback through seven rounds of a draft, suddenly our opinion of a player holds incredible value.

I hope Keenum makes the team, but let's take it slow with this guy.
Drew Brees name isn't being thrown around in regards to a comparison to play, much as when someone throws around the lack of size in a starting NFL QB he's the first player that comes to mind when someone says X is too small to play QB.

Truth is if Keenum is around what ESPN lists at 6'2" and 210 that's around the same size as a lot of starters in the NFL at QB including MVP Aaron Rodgers. I do think Keenum could add some muscle and not affect his game.

As for why he wasn't drafted by the Texans....it's likely that the FO took a calculated risk in assuming he would go undrafted and they'd be the first to get him on the phone after. It was a good call and might be a sign that Rick and Co. are finally having things clicking upstairs when it comes to the draft. I can only hope that this coming season things click as well for Kubiak when it comes to overall game management.
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Go back and watch his throwing motion, then watch the TJ Yates throwing motion and compare the two.

To me, and I'm no QB coach or anything, but Keenum stands tall and throws OVER whereas it looks like TJ sidearms or drops his elbow and slings the ball a bit. Curious to see if I saw what I saw or was imagining it. Would like your feedback.
That's something I mentioned last year.......an eerie flash back to the days of D.............nope, ain't gonna go there!
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Instead of arguing how far he can throw, I focus on accuracy,TDs to INTs and completion
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For the record, Keenum was listed as 6'1 208 at the NFL combine:

http://m.nfl.com/combine/profile/2532888/case-keenum/
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Instead of arguing how far he can throw, I focus on accuracy,TDs to INTs and completion

Using these parameters, he is indisputably a runaway from the present crowd. Now, to see if he can replicate in the NFL........I believe he can......especially on a team with a scheme like the Texans.
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Instead of arguing how far he can throw, I focus on accuracy,TDs to INTs and completion
In college they were all great... But a weak conference
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In college they were all great... But a weak conference
But no offensive line and its not like Keenum didn't go up against better competition and big schools. His entire body of work is impressive. He just needs to adjust to the speed. If he does that well, he is better than Schaub/Yates (better arm, accuracy, mobility, etc.).
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After seeing the QB camp with Gruden...how can you not come away impressed with the guy? I know I didn't see him play every week like some people here, but from the small snippets I got, the kid can play.

I think my favorite thing he said was answering Gruden about the number of hits he took at UH and if people can question if he can stand up to the rigors of the NFL. It was something to the effect of "I'm a quarterback, it's who I am and what I do. Yeah, I took some hits, but at the end of the day I'd rather go up against guys going all out and trying then guys who aren't"

That's REAL Moxy.

Count me as a new member of the Keenum fan club. I really hope this guy can stick to the roster or hopefully at least the PS because I do think he can make it at this level.

Was this when Gruden then chimed in " If you were my quarterback I'd fine you for taking that hit on your shoulder"?


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Instead of arguing how far he can throw, I focus on accuracy,TDs to INTs and completion
Arm strength isnt all about how "far" you can throw. Can you throw a 15 yard out pattern on a rope?

That is more what teams want to see. Lofting up a 70 yard bomb doesnt work 90% of the time.
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Was this when Gruden then chimed in " If you were my quarterback I'd fine you for taking that hit on your shoulder"?


Yeah, that was right before the quote. You're so on the ball.
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I believe Keenum has more wins over ranked competition than Tannehill. (SEC opponents as well).

And Ryan went inside the top 10.

Conference arguements are generally fairly week at the NFL level.

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In college they were all great... But a weak conference
Another couple of not so bad QBs:

Kurt Warner - Northern Iowa

Rich Gannon - Delaware

Jake Delhomme - Louisianna-Lafayette

Tony Romo - Eastern Illinois

Phil Simms - Morehead State

Doug Williams - Grambling State
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Using these parameters, he is indisputably a runaway from the present crowd. Now, to see if he can replicate in the NFL........I believe he can......especially on a team with a scheme like the Texans.


Im pretty sure when using those parameters its in the context of NFL play so he cant be a runaway from the crowd right now
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