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Old 04-28-2012   #61
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Case used the shotgun to his advantage (easier to see over the DL/OL). He will probably be asked to take snaps under center more often.
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for those arm-strength types..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQo0D...7B94CE4948419E

He throws 3 50+ in the air that hit the receiver in stride..

For those that don't follow UH football, UH-Rice is a rivalry with as much vitriol as Texans-Titans..

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I don't think Keenum has arm strength issues, but arm strength isn't as much about the long ball as it is about the short and intermediate balls.

Arm strength comes into play more when a guy can't fit balls into tight windows in short space. Not putting as much air under the ball. Being able to zing it...
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Case used the shotgun to his advantage (easier to see over the DL/OL). He will probably be asked to take snaps under center more often.
He's also going to have to get used to the rythm of this offense. He's going to have to slow himself down which might be a little difficult at first.
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76!!!! We're going to find out what your boy is made of. Now that he's a Texan I hope that he proves me wrong.
Hey, I've been in Houston since 1976, hence the SN Texan 76.
The only other QB from UH that I really like was Danny Davis who led the Coogs to the championship in the old SWC (the conference that preceeded the Big 12) in his sophomore year.
Davis was hurt the next year against powerhouse Penn St. but he came back his Senior year to lead us to another SWC championship.
We ran the veer back then (the origin - kind of - of the option game in college football today).
Still, Davis managed to send a receiver and a TE to the NFL.

I never did think highly of Ware nor Klinger, and you know how high they were drafted. (I wanted to be happy for them, but...)

Kolb, I said he needs to get rid of the ball sooner (than he did in college) if he was going to be any good in the NFL.

I was never a homer.

The Texans will benefit from Keenum even if he only runs the scout team; I'll tell you the reasons why when I have some time.
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What I'm saying is that there has been not a single "measurable" presented that would prevent him from succeeding in the NFL.
I think there is. I believe Keenum's release is too show. While Brees may not have a strong arm by NFL standards, he does have a relatively quick release. Keenum doesn't. It's this critical difference that makes Brees an NFL star and Keenum a long-shot to make an NFL roster.

I don't want to belabor this issue with you because I share your sentiments and hope the rookie makes me eat my words. I just don't see it.
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Show me a play where Shaub throws over 45 yards... I'll wait. WCO doesn't need some spread guy that can air it out 75 yards. We couldn't even use that. What WR do we even have with that kind of speedster ability?

Yall really need to quit regurgitating everything you read off of draft boards. Has never had a season less than 65% completion rate and his last two FULL seasons were both over 70%. Throws his receivers open, has football IQ, and will make it in the NFL.
Not sure what I'm regurgitating. I'm directed to a video of an 80 yard bomb that proves Case's arm strength and end up with something totally different that proves nothing. I'm happy we got him and hopes he makes the team.
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Most of the time a career will go as far as a player wants it to go.
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Undersized, lacks arm strength, system QB..... Drew Brees had all of that said about him too.

There is no tangible impediment to Keenum making it in the NFL. All that stuff that gets regurgitated is just the standard parroted bull**** that people read and repeat. It just takes one writer or blogger to start it.

It's really all about whether or not he's got it upstairs and if he's that kind of competitor. If he's got what it takes to do it mentally then he has the tools to make it happen. If he doesn't then he could be David Carr for all that it mattered.

He'll get a chance and I hope he can capitalize on it.

Well said Hervoyel. I really like the signing. I'm a Cougars fan also so I was happy when I found out. I hope he makes it.
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I think there is. I believe Keenum's release is too show. While Brees may not have a strong arm by NFL standards, he does have a relatively quick release. Keenum doesn't. It's this critical difference that makes Brees an NFL star and Keenum a long-shot to make an NFL roster.

I don't want to belabor this issue with you because I share your sentiments and hope the rookie makes me eat my words. I just don't see it.
TF, in one of the thread in the college or mock draft forum, I had refered to a game in which the analyst commented that Keenum has the quickest realease since Dan Marino.

Personally, I've also stated as much.
But it's not just the realease.

If you compare Weeden and Keenum for example, from the time the ball is snapped (they both played basically out of the shotgun last year) to the time the ball leaves the hand of the QB on each different throw (whether it's a quick out, a slant, a swing pass, a deep out, a post, a corner route, whatever), Keenum got the ball out of there a whole lot sooner than Weeden - and he was still more accurate.
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Doubt he makes it, but it's a nice story. No harm in giving him a shot.
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I think Case Keenum's biggest problem is the stigma of being a QB from UH and putting up huge numbers. Everyone looks at him and sees Ware and Klingler and remember how badly their NFL careers turned out.

I've only got to see a few UH games on TV. And what I saw, I liked. I think he's a gutsy kid that never gives up. He had better velocity on his throws than I expected and better accuracy.

I fully expect one of two things to happen:

1) If Matt goes on PUP, I expect us to pick up another Veteran QB for the first part of the season. I expect TJ to be the starter, the Vet to be #2, and Case to be #3.

2) If Matt doesn't go on PUP, I expect us to go with TJ, Matt, and Case. TJ may start the first couple of games of the season until Matt's good to go.

Either way, I expect Case to end up as our #3.
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Right now there are only three QBs going into camp, Yates, Keenum and Schaub if he's ready. I would think they'd want a 4th QB from somewhere.
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Right now there are only three QBs going into camp, Yates, Keenum and Schaub if he's ready. I would think they'd want a 4th QB from somewhere.
I expect Delhomme or Garcia to come back. OR we grab a camp arm.

Maybe two because I've got a feeling Matt's not going to be throwing, yet.
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I expect Delhomme or Garcia to come back. OR we grab a camp arm.

Maybe two because I've got a feeling Matt's not going to be throwing, yet.
I'm thinking Delhomme. He's still pretty useful as a trainer for the young QBs and can actually still play in an emergency. If Schaub is healthy, and that's still a big if, I hope they keep Keenum on team somehow. He's got terrific potential if he is given then time to learn and train. And under Kubiak and his staff, he'll get training thats about as good as it gets.
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I'm thinking Delhomme. He's still pretty useful as a trainer for the young QBs and can actually still play in an emergency. If Schaub is healthy, and that's still a big if, I hope they keep Keenum on team somehow. He's got terrific potential if he is given then time to learn and train. And under Kubiak and his staff, he'll get training thats about as good as it gets.
While that's all true, Garcia's wife, the playboy bunny and playmate of the year 2004, is smoking hot and that has to be taken into consideration.
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Keenum has a quicker release than Tony Romo, the guy with supposedly the fastest release in the NFL.

ESPN did a thing showing Keenum's release side-by-side with Romo's in 2009 when the unranked cougars went to stillwater and beat the #5 OSU cowboys with keenum at the helm.

Everyone in the press that's been saying things about "arm strength", "wind up", "release", etc. simply haven't watched the guy enough to know..

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I think there is. I believe Keenum's release is too show. While Brees may not have a strong arm by NFL standards, he does have a relatively quick release. Keenum doesn't. It's this critical difference that makes Brees an NFL star and Keenum a long-shot to make an NFL roster.

I don't want to belabor this issue with you because I share your sentiments and hope the rookie makes me eat my words. I just don't see it.
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I just got home and Go Coogs! We got Case!!

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It's really all about whether or not he's got it upstairs and if he's that kind of competitor. If he's got what it takes to do it mentally then he has the tools to make it happen.
Case's greatest asset is his intelligence and decision making. He most certainly has it upstairs. I have seen Case play in probably every game while he was at UH and he always impressed me with his quick decision making as the play unfolded.
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IMO opinion, Keenums greatest asset is his unbelievable ability to keep a play alive with his legs. The guy is almost unsackable if he can see what side the pressure is coming from.

He would be DEVASTATING in Kubiak's roll-out schemes as he can throw with great accuracy running out of the pocket.

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I don't consider myself very adept at it, but I could probably get you started in the right direction. Make a thread in the tech section and I'm sure plenty of people will give advice.
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