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Old 04-28-2012   #21
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I'm intrigued by this pick-up. I hope Kubes can do something with him. I don't pay too much attention to college players to know enough about Keenun other than what I've occasionally heard on the radio. How do you guys think he will compare to Kolb in the NFL?
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Default Re: Former University of Houston QB Case Keenum agrees to a contract with the Texans

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For the love of God people, Keenum threw the ball with more velocity than T.J. Yates.

Quit regurgitating nonsense about arm strength..

TJ
Yes, arm strength is overrated. But when it affects his accuracy, there's a problem.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/stor...hrowing-drills

I'm not going to bash the pickup because he's an UDFA, but I just think people are getting too excited.
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I wanted us to sign Kellen Moore, but I'm happy with Case Keenum too. Honestly though, I don't think he'll stick around. I've been reading up scout reports and it seems as though his lack of arm strength really affects his accuracy.
NFL height = no.
NFL arm = no

Happy to have the hometown kid in camp just for the fun of it, but the odds of watching him taking any regular season NFL snaps are extremely low.
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Good pick up...

But it's a far cry from being number 1 overall to being undrafted....

Just messing wit ya 76...

But seriously...I like this pick up a lot...
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Default Re: Former University of Houston QB Case Keenum agrees to a contract with the Texans

He's more accurate than Yates.

Guy has one bad combine and all of a sudden the QB with
every important record in NCAA history is a flop.

He came from an offensive system that doesn't throw those
kinds of patterns.

Let him get some time working it with a receiver and you'll
see the difference.

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Yes, arm strength is overrated. But when it affects his accuracy, there's a problem.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/stor...hrowing-drills
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I can dig it. Give the guy a shot.
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For the love of God people, Keenum threw the ball with more velocity than T.J. Yates.

Quit regurgitating nonsense about arm strength..

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Undersized, lacks arm strength, system QB..... Drew Brees had all of that said about him too.

There is no tangible impediment to Keenum making it in the NFL. All that stuff that gets regurgitated is just the standard parroted bull**** that people read and repeat. It just takes one writer or blogger to start it.

It's really all about whether or not he's got it upstairs and if he's that kind of competitor. If he's got what it takes to do it mentally then he has the tools to make it happen. If he doesn't then he could be David Carr for all that it mattered.

He'll get a chance and I hope he can capitalize on it.
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I wanted us to sign Kellen Moore, but I'm happy with Case Keenum too. Honestly though, I don't think he'll stick around. I've been reading up scout reports and it seems as though his lack of arm strength really affects his accuracy.
Keenum has more arm strength than Moore, is a better athlete, is a better QB. Moore was outstanding at Boise, but he's not a pro QB. Keenum I think can make it as a backup, due to his underrated athletic ability and moxie.

A pre-draft interview with Keenum where he answers a question about becoming a Texan.

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Good deal. Maybe Kubiak can work with him and help him improve. I doubt he will be more than a PS player though.
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VIDEO: Case Keenum's 80 Yard Bomb To Patrick Edwards
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There have been questions about his level of competition, his arm strength as well as his ability to make plays in the pocket.

He showed the ability to do all three in this 80-yard bomb to Patrick Edwards at the end of the first half of the 2012 TicketCity Bowl against a top-ranked Penn State defense
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I'll take game-time performance over drills anytime.
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Was one of the UDFA I hoped to get. This part of draft Saturday going better than the other.
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Undersized, lacks arm strength, system QB..... Drew Brees had all of that said about him too.
The NFL had 31 teams when Brees was drafted 32nd overall. That means, by today's standards, he would have been a 1st round draft pick.

What you say about Brees is correct, but to compare Keenum to Brees is a real stretch.

Again, I'm happy to have the hometown kid in the fold, but we probably shouldn't expect a Drew Brees kind of story from him.

Just sayin....
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I wanted us to sign Kellen Moore, but I'm happy with Case Keenum too. Honestly though, I don't think he'll stick around. I've been reading up scout reports and it seems as though his lack of arm strength really affects his accuracy.
This, I think Kellen Moore has a higher ceiling than Keenum, even though Keenum when to UH..
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if our 3rd team QB has to play we are in trouble.

I hope the 2nd teamer only plays in mop up duty, when we are up by 30 points
Isn't that what we said last year?

I'm somewhat surprised they didn't draft a QB in the later rounds, but I'm glad we got Keenum signed and I hope he sticks!
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Anyone who says he lacks arm strength or accuracy hasn't watched him play very often. He's a playmaker and that is something you can't teach. Go back and watch this past year's games of UH vs UCLA and Penn St. Keenum completely dismantled the "mighty" Big 10 defense of Penn St.

Kellen Moore doesn't have the athletic ability that Keenum has.
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woo-hoo.... That's the cherry on top of this draft.

I like it.
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I'll take game-time performance over drills anytime.
That pass went about 45 yards in the air. Not sure how that proves anything.
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This makes me happy. I hope he does well.
Me too.

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Undersized, lacks arm strength, system QB..... Drew Brees had all of that said about him too.

There is no tangible impediment to Keenum making it in the NFL. All that stuff that gets regurgitated is just the standard parroted bull**** that people read and repeat. It just takes one writer or blogger to start it.

It's really all about whether or not he's got it upstairs and if he's that kind of competitor. If he's got what it takes to do it mentally then he has the tools to make it happen. If he doesn't then he could be David Carr for all that it mattered.

He'll get a chance and I hope he can capitalize on it.
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That pass went about 45 yards in the air. Not sure how that proves anything.
It doesn't. Neither did the combine passing drills. Once in a NFL game, even preseason, the real test will begin.
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I'll take game-time performance over drills anytime.
Hey, I love getting the guy, but that pass traveled max 42 yards in the air (23 to 35). It didn't really show off his arm strength.

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woo-hoo.... That's the cherry on top of this draft.

I like it.
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