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Old 04-28-2012   #61
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I will always fondly remember Mel Kiper saying that in 4-5 years NO one will look back at the 2002 draft and think that David Carr or Joey Harrington are busts.

And there you go.
Yep. Kiper is hilariously wrong so often it kind of takes the hilarity out of it.
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For some of us we get enjoyment and excitement from the draft and the build up to it. We become "emotionally" vested just like most of you do with the actual games. Some of you just want to love on the boys regardless of anything and become hurt when one is traded or let go. Some just set back and let daddy tell you what happens next & you are cool with that. The enjoyment we get is becoming involved with "Our" team. We each read things differently on players, coaches, owners, schemes, play calling etc.

If you want to wait 2-3 years and evaluate, do so but allow others to do what we want. It amazes me how many of you demand to be allowed to do, think and say what you want but are quick to tell others what they should not do.
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Another solid draft for the Texans, considering they were drafting low in order.
They did a good job replenishing the pond.
I'm looking forward to the play-offs again!
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For some of us we get enjoyment and excitement from the draft and the build up to it. We become "emotionally" vested just like most of you do with the actual games. Some of you just want to love on the boys regardless of anything and become hurt when one is traded or let go. Some just set back and let daddy tell you what happens next & you are cool with that. The enjoyment we get is becoming involved with "Our" team. We each read things differently on players, coaches, owners, schemes, play calling etc.

If you want to wait 2-3 years and evaluate, do so but allow others to do what we want. It amazes me how many of you demand to be allowed to do, think and say what you want but are quick to tell others what they should not do.
Well said. MSR
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Another solid draft for the Texans, considering they were drafting low in order.
They did a good job replenishing the pond.
I'm looking forward to the play-offs again!
That is fine with me.
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I will always fondly remember Mel Kiper saying that in 4-5 years NO one will look back at the 2002 draft and think that David Carr or Joey Harrington are busts.

And there you go.
My fave Mel Kiper moments were when he got so butt-hurt that Brady Quinn didn't go higher. He really threw a hissy fit.
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For some of us we get enjoyment and excitement from the draft and the build up to it. We become "emotionally" vested just like most of you do with the actual games. Some of you just want to love on the boys regardless of anything and become hurt when one is traded or let go. Some just set back and let daddy tell you what happens next & you are cool with that. The enjoyment we get is becoming involved with "Our" team. We each read things differently on players, coaches, owners, schemes, play calling etc.

If you want to wait 2-3 years and evaluate, do so but allow others to do what we want. It amazes me how many of you demand to be allowed to do, think and say what you want but are quick to tell others what they should not do.
I don't see anyone saying you can't; but several who are saying that it might not be the wisest thing to do.

This is a message board, a discussion or debate. If you post something you best be ready to stand by it and defend it if needed.

So post your draft grade to your hearts content, just don't be shocked when somebody mentions that grading these guys before they play might be iffy.

It's happend everywhere this forum has exsisted, so you really shouldn't be surprised by now.
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Bullock in 5th is early but locks him in and improves draft.
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C+
Agreed. Mercilus brought it down.
Yep a guy nobody expected to still be there, the NCAA sack leader for 2011 sure made day one suck.

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I give it a B , filled a need with a player who I didnt expect to be on the board when the Texans picked.




Day 2

Again I give it a B. Filled two needs with quality players.

Seems like most of the long time draft followers dont care for Posey .... But I am happy with the pick , think he's far more polished than any of the other prospects that we were talking about taking in either of the first two rounds.

Sitting out most of his Sr. season hurt his draft stock but the production was there in the two prior seasons. Good size , good speed , great hands , polished route runner , effective blocker. What more can you ask for .... and in the 3rd round no less.
Agreed with all. My only "gripe" w/ the Texans this year was not trading up in the second. It obvious that they had guys on their board who they were counting on to be there that didn't fall. Once that became obvious, then they traded back.
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Okay...they just drafted the AnM kicker... I will now give this draft an A+, only because there is no letter before A...
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It's kinda cool that we can finally have a rather ho-hum draft with no real expectations (other than the 5th round PK) of having these guys make an immediate impact as starters. This could easily end up as a very solid draft with quality starters in a few years.
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It's kinda cool that we can finally have a rather ho-hum draft with no real expectations (other than the 5th round PK) of having these guys make an immediate impact as starters. This could easily end up as a very solid draft with quality starters in a few years.
Over all, I think this was an excellent draft without even knowing our last pick. I think the team has improved itself.
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For some of us we get enjoyment and excitement from the draft and the build up to it. We become "emotionally" vested just like most of you do with the actual games. Some of you just want to love on the boys regardless of anything and become hurt when one is traded or let go. Some just set back and let daddy tell you what happens next & you are cool with that. The enjoyment we get is becoming involved with "Our" team. We each read things differently on players, coaches, owners, schemes, play calling etc.

If you want to wait 2-3 years and evaluate, do so but allow others to do what we want. It amazes me how many of you demand to be allowed to do, think and say what you want but are quick to tell others what they should not do.
Lol... No one's saying you can't, and i understand it's all in fun and all... I'm just saying it's funny because i see D-s through A+s... almost everyone is already wrong, with absolutely nothing to base their grades on since none of these players have stepped on the NFL field yet...

For me, i will not grade the test before it's been taken... I'll talk about liking/loving/not liking/just being "okay" with a pick, but i can't grade it yet...
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Geez, some people say it takes years to grade a draft properly. We're not even gonna wait until it's FINISHED?!?
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Lol... No one's saying you can't, and i understand it's all in fun and all... I'm just saying it's funny because i see D-s through A+s... almost everyone is already wrong, with absolutely nothing to base their grades on since none of these players have stepped on the NFL field yet...

For me, i will not grade the test before it's been taken... I'll talk about liking/loving/not liking/just being "okay" with a pick, but i can't grade it yet...
We drafted a kicker! Our most pressing need dammit!

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B+ to A for me.

Posey is the only real question mark. I was high on Crick and think he could be the steal of the draft.
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It's kinda cool that we can finally have a rather ho-hum draft with no real expectations (other than the 5th round PK) of having these guys make an immediate impact as starters. This could easily end up as a very solid draft with quality starters in a few years.
I wouldn't underestimate the importance of this draft just because we don't need these guys to start straight away. In 12 months time we're going to have choices to make regarding a lot of the current starters and their contracts, and we're going to need several of these guys to be ready to step in as starters at that point.

That should help these rookie's chances though, giving the coaches some leeway in how they coach them, they can take things that bit slower and get it right knowing that these guys just need to contribute rather than being lynchpins in game 1.

BTW, I'm not going to rate this draft now, but its interesting to read the insight of those who have watched the tape, so keep going. Not like its a final grade, just an idea of how people rate the guys right now. The major factor in this drafts success hasn't yet begun, the coaching, but I don't see anyone claiming some kind of be-all and end-all in their grade right now.
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I wouldn't underestimate the importance of this draft just because we don't need these guys to start straight away. In 12 months time we're going to have choices to make regarding a lot of the current starters and their contracts, and we're going to need several of these guys to be ready to step in as starters at that point.

That should help these rookie's chances though, giving the coaches some leeway in how they coach them, they can take things that bit slower and get it right knowing that these guys just need to contribute rather than being lynchpins in game 1.
I wasn't underestimating this draft at all. I called it ho-hum because, barring injury, the only projected starter is a 5th round place kicker. The others can be brought along just like you described. This is how consistent playoff teams draft and we certainly seem headed towards being consistent contenders.
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