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Old 04-27-2012   #21
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I am hoping for Thompson DT.
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As I said elsewhere, Smithiak has too many WTF moments for me to buy in.
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I am hoping for Thompson DT.
Would love to see us land Thompson at the top of the 4th and then Hosley (CB, Virginia Tech) and either Massie (OT, Ole Miss) or Mosley (OT, Auburn).
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What's the problem with Mercilusand posey


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Catches 53 Yards 848 Average 16.0 TD 7

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Take a look at his sophomore and junior year. He was already productive player and probably produces even more numbers if he was playing his senior year.
And he didn't have a QB.
Posey stats not bad.


Also mercilus had 16 sacks and 9 FF. Whats wrong with that.
If yo9u are going to use stats then compare Posey's to other available receivers and answer your own questions.

I don't think anyone has said anything is wrong with Posey.
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Take a look at his sophomore and junior year. He was already productive player and probably produces even more numbers if he was playing his senior year.
And he didn't have a QB.
Posey stats not bad.


Also mercilus had 16 sacks and 9 FF. Whats wrong with that.
exactly at least give him a chance.
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Draft grades period
You sound like the guy who did not like cars but manages to go to all the car shows to say how he doesn't like them. If you don't want to play move along.
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As I said elsewhere, Smithiak has too many WTF moments for me to buy in.
Yep, that Duane Brown (declared the biggest reach of the first round) was also a HUGE WTF moment.

Like I said earlier, these guys have nailed down solid drafts that last 3 years... they've earned leeway. I'll wait and see before I pull out my pitchfork.
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Yep, that Duane Brown (declared the biggest reach of the first round) was also a HUGE WTF moment.
Straw man much?
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Bump this thread in 3-4 years.
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Straw man much?
not really. It was a fair argument. Straw man would be eliminating the rest of my post and hand picking one sentence to respond to.

These two guys were first time HC/GMs. Maybe just maybe they now know what the hell they're doing. Their recent track record suggests that they do.
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I will give a B! I love the Merciless & Brandon pick! I'm starting to warm up on the Posey pick! Mayock thought he was a good pick. I think he's stock fell becuz of the tats scandal, LOL! I guess they felt they needed an edgy, badboy type player! I'm hoping Kubes & Co. can coach him well & A.J> can probably teach him a thing or two!
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I didn't go a-hole over us picking Mario. I was fine with it.

I didn't freak out over us trading down and then choosing D Brown and later Slaton. I was for it.

I didn't freak out one single time last year.

Tonight? I had a major malfunction of Full Metal Jacket proportions. Because I think we screwed up completely. I do NOT trust that Posey was our guy. I think we lost out on someone we coveted, traded down (thinking the teams ahead of us wouldn't pick other guys we wanted), and then we had to settle for Posey.

But all we will hear from Smithiak is how much they like that Posey kid...who didn't play most of his senior year because of being suspended. Shucks, we landed the guy we wanted all along......

Whitney Mercilus was a beast pick. Brooks, when I look at how we have drafted OL the past two years, seems to be a good pick. Posey? No way in China.
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not really. It was a fair argument. Straw man would be eliminating the rest of my post and hand picking one sentence to respond to.
No, you need to look up what a straw man argument is.

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In this case, you set up the Duane Brown straw man and then knocked it down. Good job. I never said anything about Duane Brown. FTR, I was all for that pick when it happened.

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... which explains why they've had so many WTDF moments.

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Maybe. Maybe they don't. Maybe they'd tell us that KJ is the most NFL ready CB, despite Nick Saban and later Wade Phillips refuting that point. Maybe they're telling us that Jacoby Jones is worth a 3rd round pick. Or Antwaun Molden.

Or maybe it's the next great WR. But right now, it's a WTF moment. And I bet you dollars to doughnuts that is exactly what a ton of NFL people said when the trade/subsequent pick went down. So yeah, we'll see. I recognize that. Do you recognize that they are still growing into the job?
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Incomplete. The 4th round will make or break it for me.
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Every player in the draft is basically a project no matter the round.
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Incomplete. The 4th round will make or break it for me.
Lot of good players still available in the 4th!
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Lot of good players still available in the 4th!
I agree! Now, we need to let Wade take over the draft & lock Kubes & Smith in the closet!
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No, you need to look up what a straw man argument is.



In this case, you set up the Duane Brown straw man and then knocked it down. Good job. I never said anything about Duane Brown. FTR, I was all for that pick when it happened.



... which explains why they've had so many WTDF moments.



Maybe. Maybe they don't. Maybe they'd tell us that KJ is the most NFL ready CB, despite Nick Saban and later Wade Phillips refuting that point. Maybe they're telling us that Jacoby Jones is worth a 3rd round pick. Or Antwaun Molden.

Or maybe it's the next great WR. But right now, it's a WTF moment. And I bet you dollars to doughnuts that is exactly what a ton of NFL people said when the trade/subsequent pick went down. So yeah, we'll see. I recognize that. Do you recognize that they are still growing into the job?
After 6-7 years on the job... I think they've grown into it. Unlike other people in this thread I really like what they've done so far, so I'm not ****ing bricks right now or hitting panic buttons.

I'm sitting fat and happy and I'm pretty content with this draft so far. I'm really looking forward to see what our 3 4th round draft picks will net us tomorrow.
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Yep, that Duane Brown (declared the biggest reach of the first round) was also a HUGE WTF moment.

Like I said earlier, these guys have nailed down solid drafts that last 3 years... they've earned leeway. I'll wait and see before I pull out my pitchfork.
Put me in the wait and see if they can play crowd.

I remember the "future hall of famer" predictions for Reggie Bush and how Mel Hairgel went on and on and on about how great Brady Quinn was gonna be...
...and didn't a lot of us lament the loss of a our former starting RG that no one bothered to draft?

Yeah.... I'll just wait and see if they can play.
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