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Old 03-20-2012   #61
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Simple, because the Bills needed to spend their way back into relevancy and needed to ignite their fanbase (evidenced by season ticket sales), thus overspending for one of the top free-agents this offseason.
That's a nice theory, but doesn't explain why they didn't pay someone else. It doesn't explain why they didn't pay him just enough to sign with them. It doesn't explain why people said he'd get Julius Peppers money before the Bills got involved. It also doesn't explain why he was at the very top of (nearly?) every free agent available list.

Common consensus on Albert Haynesworth was that the Redskins spent way too much. Common consensus on Williams is that the Bills made a good move.

I hope y'all are right, quite frankly. I don't want him to do well for Buffalo or anyone else but the Texans. But that's not where I'd put my money.
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Old 03-20-2012   #62
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That's a nice theory, but doesn't explain why they didn't pay someone else. It doesn't explain why they didn't pay him just enough to sign with them. It doesn't explain why people said he'd get Julius Peppers money before the Bills got involved. It also doesn't explain why he was at the very top of (nearly?) every free agent available list.

Common consensus on Albert Haynesworth was that the Redskins spent way too much. Common consensus on Williams is that the Bills made a good move.

I hope y'all are right, quite frankly. I don't want him to do well for Buffalo or anyone else but the Texans. But that's not where I'd put my money.
Whoever thinks the Bills spending that much on Mario was a good idea needs to put the pipe down. Mario wasn't worth the $54 million that he got from his rookie contract and this is coming from a Mario fan.

The Bills felt like they needed to make a splash so they overspent for a guy that shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Peppers. In six seasons with the Texans Mario has had double digit sacks twice (2007 & 2008). In 10 season Peppers has only single digit sacks 3 times (2003, 2007 & 2010).

With regards to Haynesworth, people thought the Redskins overspent because everyone knew he was a cancer and knew he half-assed it on a lot of plays.

That said and to keep it relevant, our tackles (either one) will eat Mario's lunch and take his milk money.
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Stop talking about Mario. He is not a Texan anymore.
? - We discuss plenty of non Texans in this area. Shawntee Spencer, Mike Wallace, Vickers.
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Yeah, where your post fails is where you claim Mario is a better player at his "respective position", when he clearly isn't.
As a Texans fan I can see why you would say this, but anybody that knows anything about football knows that you're wrong.
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And can we please stop ignoring the fact that we have a LT who's actually playing at at a elite level.
Lol? We're not doing that (not that I'd say Brown has played at an elite level, but he's been close), but that has nothing to do with Mario, who is a better pass rusher than Duane is a pass blocker. It's close, but it's the facts.
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Nice to ignore all-pro (which isn't a popularity contest)
Hate to break it to you but that's also a popularity contest, there were a handful of bad All-Pro selections this past season. Charles Woodson was a 1st-Team All-Pro this past season, lmao.
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To be quite honest with you, i think before Mario went on IR this past season he was playing better at OLB than he ever has at DE...jmo
Had a lot more to do with switching from a series of the worst defensive coordinators in the league to the second-best defensive coordinator in the league.
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Hate to break it to you but that's also a popularity contest, there were a handful of bad All-Pro selections this past season. Charles Woodson was a 1st-Team All-Pro this past season, lmao.
I didn't watch enough Green Bay games to comment on his play specifically, but he led the league in interceptions... again.

That's going to get you a lot of deserved votes.
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And it deserves to be noted Duane Brown was selected 2nd team all-pro this year.

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LINKhttp://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/1...to-other-teams

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Texans defensive end Mario Williams to the Bills

Replacement: Brooks Reed

The Skinny: When Williams went down with a torn pectoral muscle, the Texans moved Conner Barwin to Williams' side and inserted rookie Brooks Reed into the starting lineup. Barwin had 11 1/2 sacks and Reed had 6 1/2, and added 3 1/2 more in the playoffs. Neither player has Williams' physical ability, but both play hard and can be double-digit sack guys in this defense.

Grade the Replacement: B+
I wish they would get it right and say that Barwin is replacing Williams and Reed is replacing Barwin. How freaking hard is that to figure out???
Barwin is already a double-digit sack guy at that position.
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