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Old 03-16-2012   #181
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If they wait too long they're sitting on their thumbs, if they act now they're overreacting... People need to simmer down...

We learned last year that this FO has no problem waiting a little, then pulling the trigger at the right time... It's still been less than 72 hours since this whole mess started, it's early... Hell, took 'em four days last year to make a splash and there was a shorter time period to that FAgency...

The "are we there yet? are we there yet?" crowd needs to just sit in the back and settle down...
A year ago we were all worried about the lack of movement with Nnamdi. The team made their offer, was patient, and then grabbed a better value when it was apparent that Nnamdi wasn't coming here.
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Good post. And Vince Young is still out there so there is hope.
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I had hoped they would take a look at Meachem, but...what worries me is that pancakes is talking about how well Butler will fill the hole left by Winston's departure. Smells like 12-16 sacks from the right tackle position.
Because Butler was so terrible filling in for Brown?
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I'd totally be good with this plan. Additionally I would cut J.J. (Wright becomes our new PR). Then keep the best between LeStar Jean and Jeff Maehl, and hold onto K.W. for another year (to help groom whichever youngster wins) then and we're five deep. Now we still don't have an A.J. replacement unit. We need a big, physical WR for that. But there's always next year to fill that need.
I say wrong to Wright.

The Texans don't need a high-end and/or highly paid slot receiver - and that's all Wright will be, IMO.

If we can't get Floyd, then we go for Hill. There's your 2 NFL ready guys right there. I believe Jeffery is ready as well - despite his sub-par 40.

You never know:AJ's replacement might be right there. Of course at this stage I wouldn't be surprised if the Texans didn't go WR at all until the later rounds. All of this is predicated on how the FAs are handled, yes? Yes.
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I say wrong to Wright.

The Texans don't need a high-end and/or highly paid slot receiver - and that's all Wright will be, IMO.

If we can't get Floyd, then we go for Hill. There's your 2 NFL ready guys right there. I believe Jeffery is ready as well - despite his sub-par 40.

You never know:AJ's replacement might be right there. Of course at this stage I wouldn't be surprised if the Texans didn't go WR at all until the later rounds. All of this is predicated on how the FAs are handled, yes? Yes.
In what way is Stephen Hill NFL ready...?
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In what way is Stephen Hill NFL ready...?
I was wondering the same thing. Hill has said himself he needs to work on his route running and that he didn't run a wide variety of routes in college. He wasn't asked to do much more than block and go deep. He will need practice a lot more on his intermediate/short routes before he's ready to be a big help on every down, IMO. He could be very good in the future, but I don't think he can be proclaimed to be NFL ready as of today. He does certainly have a lot of athletic ability though, to say the least.
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In what way is Stephen Hill NFL ready...?
It's yet to be seen with Stephen Hill, where he's drafted and by what team - but if you go in the first 2 rounds, as Hill is projected, you had better be NFL ready.

"NFL Ready" to me means you're producing at a high level within two years of your draft. That's either a.) Accounts for a big freshman year or b.) Accounts for not too big of a sophomore slump or c.) Showing brief flashes as a rookie but really turning it on in your second year.

This does not, however, account for injuries or being on a team who doesn't cater to your skillset, which has been known to hamper players.

In that Hill is an exeptional blocker with elite speed, right now, and he already runs less sloppy routes than Jacoby Jones, in theory, even though we know the draft is a crap shoot, if the Texans drafted him, I see that he'd be an upgrade over JJ, at the very least. Too bad JJ wasn't "NFL Ready" in my book. More like the soup line ready since day-one.
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In what way is Stephen Hill NFL ready...?
None of those guys are NFL ready outside of Blackmon. These aren't AJ Green/Julio Jones caliber.
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It's yet to be seen with Stephen Hill, where he's drafted and by what team - but if you go in the first 2 rounds, as Hill is projected, you had better be NFL ready.

"NFL Ready" to me means you're producing at a high level within two years of your draft. That's either a.) Accounts for a big freshman year or b.) Accounts for not too big of a sophomore slump or c.) Showing brief flashes as a rookie but really turning it on in your second year.

This does not, however, account for injuries or being on a team who doesn't cater to your skillset, which has been known to hamper players.

In that Hill is an exeptional blocker with elite speed, right now, and he already runs less sloppy routes than Jacoby Jones, in theory, even though we know the draft is a crap shoot, if the Texans drafted him, I see that he'd be an upgrade over JJ, at the very least. Too bad JJ wasn't "NFL Ready" in my book. More like the soup line ready since day-one.
Teams draft off potential. Hill will get drafted in the top 40 because of his measureables despite the fact that he's not ready to see the field. If you want someone who will see the field early then don't draft this guy. If you want a project player who could possibly/eventually be a beast in a few years then you take him.
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None of those guys are NFL ready outside of Blackmon. These aren't AJ Green/Julio Jones caliber.
Michael Floyd. Floyd is actually the most pro ready WR in this draft, IMO. More so than Blackmon even.
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Dammit! I cant believe Brisiel is a Raider!
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Dammit! I cant believe Brisiel is a Raider!
They paid a little more than I thought he'd get. I guess when you don't have draft picks you have to go after FA hard if you want people - at least we aren't in their position.
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They paid a little more than I thought he'd get. I guess when you don't have draft picks you have to go after FA hard if you want people - at least we aren't in their position.
True, but I was hoping to see Biscuit back in a Texans uni.
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Michael Floyd. Floyd is actually the most pro ready WR in this draft, IMO. More so than Blackmon even.
I agree with you, in theory, about Floyd. But I don't believe you take any "projects" based upon "potential" in the top-40 or even the top-60 of the draft unless they are a QB or a CB.

Having said that, after the aforementioned positions, WR is so difficult to grade. For every AJ Green you'll have 2 Charles Rodgers, Quincy Morgans and Troy Edwards. Moreover, there's always some kids taken in the 3rd-7th, every year, that blows up. Guys like Stephen Hill, given the right psychological atmosphere, who have underachieved in college because of scheme are prime candidates to blow up in the NFL, though of course nothing is a given.

Yet, overall, we're still talking about the Texans. If they're going to take a WR in the 1st or 2nd, I'm just saying it better be someone who's ready to play. The way it looks, however, is that they'll not go that route, and it will probably be someone like Dwight Jones or Tommy Streeter. Projects. While we still have Jacoby Jones on roster: "A project."

I simply think there's less of a chance that Hill will be a project. But I'm not really trusting the FO right now, so really, I don't know sh!t.
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True, but I was hoping to see Biscuit back in a Texans uni.
Me, too, at least we kept Myers.
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We just signed Myers, that is what is going on! Going to drink a couple of cold ones tonight. We really needed that.
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