Moving up to 18 - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

Brandon420tx · 03-10-2012

If Michael Floyd fell down to the Chargers pick (18) what would you give to move up to select him right in front of the Bears? Even less likely would be DeCastro falling to 18, but I doubt the Chargers would pass on a chance to take him if he did.

I'd be willing to part with our 1st and 3rd pick this year. I've been on record saying there are tons of players the Texans could select between rounds 2 and 3 this Draft, and would be in major favor of getting as many picks as I could in that time frame, including trading out of the first and up from the 4th, but this is the only scenario I could think of for moving up in the first. Michael Floyd would put our offense over the top ... if we bring back Myers, and either find an effective backup plan for Brisiel or bring him back.

**Dutchrudder** · 03-10-2012

Definitely willing to give up a 3rd this year, or a 2nd next year to do that. But they could give up the 2nd and move up higher than 18.

Wolf6151 · 03-11-2012

If I'm moving up from #26 to #18 it's going to be for something that I absolutely can't get at #26 and this is a very deep draft for WR's. I like Floyd better than Blackmon, but I'd have a hard time trading up for him when I'd be happy taking Stephen Hill at #26. I don't think there's anyone in this draft that I'd trade up for other than Morris Claiborne-CB but there's no way he falls out of the top 10.

otisbean · 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Brandon420tx

If Michael Floyd fell down to the Chargers pick (18) what would you give to move up to select him right in front of the Bears? Even less likely would be DeCastro falling to 18, but I doubt the Chargers would pass on a chance to take him if he did.

I'd be willing to part with our 1st and 3rd pick this year. I've been on record saying there are tons of players the Texans could select between rounds 2 and 3 this Draft, and would be in major favor of getting as many picks as I could in that time frame, including trading out of the first and up from the 4th, but this is the only scenario I could think of for moving up in the first. Michael Floyd would put our offense over the top ... if we bring back Myers, and either find an effective backup plan for Brisiel or bring him back.

Im a huge Floyd fan. This guy is a damn good FB player, if we can trade our third and grab him Im all for it.

otisbean · 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Brandon420tx

If Michael Floyd fell down to the Chargers pick (18) what would you give to move up to select him right in front of the Bears? Even less likely would be DeCastro falling to 18, but I doubt the Chargers would pass on a chance to take him if he did.

I'd be willing to part with our 1st and 3rd pick this year. I've been on record saying there are tons of players the Texans could select between rounds 2 and 3 this Draft, and would be in major favor of getting as many picks as I could in that time frame, including trading out of the first and up from the 4th, but this is the only scenario I could think of for moving up in the first. Michael Floyd would put our offense over the top ... if we bring back Myers, and either find an effective backup plan for Brisiel or bring him back.

Im a huge Floyd fan. This guy is a damn good FB player, if we can trade our third and grab him Im all for it. I think the Chargers are looking for a pass rusher so swapping with them could be possible as Perry, Branch, Mercilus ect... could very well be there at 26.

**Lucky** · 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Brandon420tx

If Michael Floyd fell down to the Chargers pick (18) what would you give to move up to select him right in front of the Bears? Even less likely would be DeCastro falling to 18, but I doubt the Chargers would pass on a chance to take him if he did.

Why would the Chargers pass on Floyd? Their losing their top wideout in free agency (Vincent Jackson). They need a WR a hellava lot more than the Texans do.

Brandon420tx · 03-11-2012

I thought about that as well, the most obvious answer is to avoid the confusion of a Floyd and Floyd receiving backfield, .... and y'know .... extra picks. They actually need alot of help in alot of areas.

WR, OG, OT, OLB, ILB, S, and CB. They really really need an OLB more than a WR though. Their pass rush has been non existent for some time now

mussop · 03-11-2012

I think Floyd will go top 14. I don't see us drafting a WR in the first. But to answer your question, yes I would trade up if he fell. I just think we will have to trade way up for Floyd.

mussop · 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Lucky

Why would the Chargers pass on Floyd? Their losing their top wideout in free agency (Vincent Jackson). They need a WR a hellava lot more than the Texans do.

SD needs a pass rusher right now more than anything.

Brandon420tx · 03-11-2012

Anything earlier than 16 would probably cost too much.
16 Jets: Probably want more value to jump back 10 spots
17 Bengals: Already have 2 firsts, lots a needs, don't see them trading
18 Chargers: Lots of needs, can still pick up a valuable player at 26 not much of a trade back to them
19 Bears: They'd take Floyd before we could call them.

If Floyd makes it past the Cardinals and Jets I can honestly see him falling to the Bears.

**badboy** · 03-11-2012

If Bears took Floyd @ 19 what teams between them & Texans would draft Wright? Could he slide to 26?

Brandon420tx · 03-11-2012

Maybe Cleveland

**Dutchrudder** · 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Brandon420tx

Maybe Cleveland

I don't see Cleveland taking Wright. They need a true #1 guy, not just a speedster. It would be a weird pick for that organization.

**badboy** · 03-11-2012

So you see Wright maybe @#26? I'd take him over Hill.

Corrosion · 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Wolf6151

If I'm moving up from #26 to #18 it's going to be for something that I absolutely can't get at #26 and this is a very deep draft for WR's. I like Floyd better than Blackmon, but I'd have a hard time trading up for him when I'd be happy taking Stephen Hill at #26. I don't think there's anyone in this draft that I'd trade up for other than Morris Claiborne-CB but there's no way he falls out of the top 10.

I think the drop off from Blackmon & Floyd Vs the rest of the WR's is significant .... Hill , Jeffery and Randel arent in their class. You cant get that quality at #26.

Blackmon or Floyd will start from day one .... I dont believe those behind them in the pecking order will, they may be the #3 guy's on the teams they go to.

Floyd has alot of questionmarks off the field .... but on the field he's a beast. I'd probably give up a 3rd to move up ....and I'd think about a 2nd.

Blake · 03-12-2012

Floyd has a checkered past IMO. I wouldnt trade anything for him. Hell, I'd think twice about taking him at 26.

Goldensilence · 03-12-2012

If all I had to do was swap a 3rd to move up for Floyd? A third for what might be the piece on this offense that takes them to elite? No Question I'd do it.

aussie_texan · 03-12-2012

floyd is the best WR in this draft. if it weren't for his off-field issues he would be a top 7 pick. He'll end up being the best WR from this draft and a pro bowler for many years.

I would trade my 3 and 5th easily for this guy with out a blink of an eye lid

steelbtexan · 03-12-2012

I would give up a 1st and 4th this yr and a 2nd next yr.

Reason: Floyd is a great WR and great WR's dont come cheap.

skenney_11 · 03-12-2012

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Originally Posted by steelbtexan

I would give up a 1st and 4th this yr and a 2nd next yr.

Reason: Floyd is a great WR and great WR's dont come cheap.

Amen. I think we will have to trade up to the 14th pick for floyd

03-11-2012	#7
Brandon420tx Flounder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 25 Posts: 3,871 Rep Power: 4417	Re: Moving up to 18 I thought about that as well, the most obvious answer is to avoid the confusion of a Floyd and Floyd receiving backfield, .... and y'know .... extra picks. They actually need alot of help in alot of areas. WR, OG, OT, OLB, ILB, S, and CB. They really really need an OLB more than a WR though. Their pass rush has been non existent for some time now __________________ That Dolphin is the bravest thing I ever saw

03-11-2012	#8
mussop Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4,324 Rep Power: 10732	Re: Moving up to 18 I think Floyd will go top 14. I don't see us drafting a WR in the first. But to answer your question, yes I would trade up if he fell. I just think we will have to trade way up for Floyd.

03-11-2012	#10
Brandon420tx Flounder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 25 Posts: 3,871 Rep Power: 4417	Re: Moving up to 18 Anything earlier than 16 would probably cost too much. 16 Jets: Probably want more value to jump back 10 spots 17 Bengals: Already have 2 firsts, lots a needs, don't see them trading 18 Chargers: Lots of needs, can still pick up a valuable player at 26 not much of a trade back to them 19 Bears: They'd take Floyd before we could call them. If Floyd makes it past the Cardinals and Jets I can honestly see him falling to the Bears. __________________ That Dolphin is the bravest thing I ever saw

03-11-2012	#11
badboy Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Clear Lake Posts: 19,042 Rep Power: 30949	Re: Moving up to 18 If Bears took Floyd @ 19 what teams between them & Texans would draft Wright? Could he slide to 26? __________________ The sound of marine engines and superchargers soon shall fill the air!

03-11-2012	#12
Brandon420tx Flounder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 25 Posts: 3,871 Rep Power: 4417	Re: Moving up to 18 Maybe Cleveland __________________ That Dolphin is the bravest thing I ever saw

03-10-2012	#1
Brandon420tx Flounder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 25 Posts: 3,871 Rep Power: 4417	Moving up to 18 If Michael Floyd fell down to the Chargers pick (18) what would you give to move up to select him right in front of the Bears? Even less likely would be DeCastro falling to 18, but I doubt the Chargers would pass on a chance to take him if he did. I'd be willing to part with our 1st and 3rd pick this year. I've been on record saying there are tons of players the Texans could select between rounds 2 and 3 this Draft, and would be in major favor of getting as many picks as I could in that time frame, including trading out of the first and up from the 4th, but this is the only scenario I could think of for moving up in the first. Michael Floyd would put our offense over the top ... if we bring back Myers, and either find an effective backup plan for Brisiel or bring him back. __________________ That Dolphin is the bravest thing I ever saw

03-10-2012	#2
Dutchrudder COOL BEANS! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Houston Section: Fort Kickass Age: 28 Posts: 13,746 Rep Power: 77704	Re: Moving up to 18 Definitely willing to give up a 3rd this year, or a 2nd next year to do that. But they could give up the 2nd and move up higher than 18. __________________

03-11-2012	#3
Wolf6151 Hall of Fame Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pearland, Texas Posts: 2,708 Rep Power: 6036	Re: Moving up to 18 If I'm moving up from #26 to #18 it's going to be for something that I absolutely can't get at #26 and this is a very deep draft for WR's. I like Floyd better than Blackmon, but I'd have a hard time trading up for him when I'd be happy taking Stephen Hill at #26. I don't think there's anyone in this draft that I'd trade up for other than Morris Claiborne-CB but there's no way he falls out of the top 10.

03-11-2012	#14
badboy Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Clear Lake Posts: 19,042 Rep Power: 30949	Re: Moving up to 18 So you see Wright maybe @#26? I'd take him over Hill. __________________ The sound of marine engines and superchargers soon shall fill the air!

03-12-2012	#16
Blake MMQB Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spring Section: 551/B Posts: 9,595 Rep Power: 14926	Re: Moving up to 18 Floyd has a checkered past IMO. I wouldnt trade anything for him. Hell, I'd think twice about taking him at 26. __________________

03-12-2012	#17
Goldensilence Is this Sparta? Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Out of the desert finally... Age: 31 Posts: 5,026 Rep Power: 6218	Re: Moving up to 18 If all I had to do was swap a 3rd to move up for Floyd? A third for what might be the piece on this offense that takes them to elite? No Question I'd do it.

03-12-2012	#18
aussie_texan All Pro Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 751 Rep Power: 5876	Re: Moving up to 18 floyd is the best WR in this draft. if it weren't for his off-field issues he would be a top 7 pick. He'll end up being the best WR from this draft and a pro bowler for many years. I would trade my 3 and 5th easily for this guy with out a blink of an eye lid

03-12-2012	#19
steelbtexan Hall of Fame Join Date: Feb 2007 Age: 50 Posts: 8,871 Rep Power: 22920	Re: Moving up to 18 I would give up a 1st and 4th this yr and a 2nd next yr. Reason: Floyd is a great WR and great WR's dont come cheap.

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