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Old 03-06-2012   #361
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I'd rather a point system, top pick on 3 and they get 3 points, 2nd on 2 etc. Add up the points after 30 posts and the winner is the pick

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For example my vote would be
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1. Mercilus

Would need a new thread
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I'd rather a point system, top pick on 3 and they get 3 points, 2nd on 2 etc. Add up the points after 30 posts and the winner is the pick

3
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For example my vote would be
3. Konz
2. Randle
1. Mercilus

Would need a new thread

Why is that better than a poll?

A poll is less work on the people doing it...
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Poll incoming in 10, 9, 8, 7.................
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because I love votes like that, and it really shows popular opinion better. Most people have 2 people that they wishy-wash back and forth between anyway. Could go 1 and 2
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because I love votes like that, and it really shows popular opinion better. Most people have 2 people that they wishy-wash back and forth between anyway. Could go 1 and 2
That is why in the poll you can pick more than one.
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That is why in the poll you can pick more than one.
Already did, I still like the point system, but whatev, it'll still work out like this, especially if we can limit it to 3 picks a person
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I vote for Konz!
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So how did we come to the conclusion of drafting Konz? Is there a head count or what?

I thought everyone was pretty mixed on this. Shouldn't every owner get a chance to bring their input before we make it official?
I don't recall ever using a poll before, and I saw his name listed about ten times. I figured it was enough to make a consensus for the pick. It's how we've done it in the past with a group selection.
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Mark Barron would be a horrible pick.

Manning and Quin are good enough to get it done.

I am ok with Konz.

I would be looking at Perry just because pass rushers are king in the 3-4.

I think that we assume that Briesel or Myers is leaving, that we can't trust Caldwell and make Konz official.

We can get a decent WR later.
For how long will Manning be good enough? He will be 30 years old this season.

Barron would be a fantastic pick as he could be a quality, quality backup SS and special teamer for now. We also have a formation in which we bring in another safety. We used Demps on alot of those packages during the year. Put Barron deep and have Quin play that inside cover position or vise versa. It gives us ALOT of versatility, especially with Quin being such a good nickel back. He could take over at SS when we get rid of Manning and Quin could play FS. Not that big of a transition for a guy like Quin to move from SS to FS.

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I'm against the Konz pick...I just watched some more clips of him and I'm not impressed...I'd much rather have Randle who looks like he will be a solid pro for years.
I really like Randle, he's my #1 WR.

But with Briesel probably leaving. Picking up the best C prospect that can also play OG would seem to be the way to go. Is there really that much difference between Randle and Marvin Jones or Jeffery in the 2/3rd rd?
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I don't recall ever using a poll before, and I saw his name listed about ten times. I figured it was enough to make a consensus for the pick. It's how we've done it in the past with a group selection.
This is different than the previous group picks. We're not picking in the 5th round for a vacated team. Since everyone picks for the Texans, we need to get everyone's input. A poll works best for that.

I like it this way. We all have a say and it's a consensus of all the fans participating.
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With the 26th pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the Houston Texans select:

Rueben Randle - WR, LSU



I was greatly tempted to take Nick Perry, the top talent left on the board here. But with the overwhelming need for an impact WR I was forced to take one here.

The choice came down to Randle or Stephen Hill. Despite Hill's higher potential ceiling I decided to go with Randle. I think he has a higher floor and the ability to be a bigger contributor at the beginning of his career.

Randle has good size and speed. He catches the ball with great hands instead of letting it come into his body. He runs great routes down the field. He may need some work on his underneath routes but I am confident that he has the skills and potential of a first round prospect.
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Hill has greater potential and better measurables than Randle. Big mistake by the Texans to pass him up for a player that is more "ready" for the job. Similar to taking KJ because he was also "ready" for the job.
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Hill has greater potential and better measurables than Randle. Big mistake by the Texans to pass him up for a player that is more "ready" for the job. Similar to taking KJ because he was also "ready" for the job.
Potential and measureables mean nothing when it comes to production. I've been on board saying for weeks that Hill is a "project" pick and if we want to upgrade the WR position immediately then Randle would be the better choice.

Hill would be fighting Lestar Jean and Jacoby Jones for scraps of playing time while Randle would be splitting starting reps with Kevin Walter. Randle helps us win in 2012, Hill helps us win in 2014 (if he even pans out).

KJ may have been classified as the "more ready" player in 2010 but tell me, what CB taken after him has been better?
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Hill has greater potential and better measurables than Randle. Big mistake by the Texans to pass him up for a player that is more "ready" for the job. Similar to taking KJ because he was also "ready" for the job.
While I agree with you in theory and Hill may turn out to be the better pro. Randle isn't chopped liver. He will probably run in the 4.4's at his pro day. He will be a 10 yr starter barring injury. Randle compares to Reggie Wayne when he was coming out of college. IMHO

The only thing that held Randle back last yr was terrible QB play.
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Hill has greater potential and better measurables than Randle. Big mistake by the Texans to pass him up for a player that is more "ready" for the job. Similar to taking KJ because he was also "ready" for the job.
I'm not ready to call KJ a great pick yet but I think he compares very favorably to Devin McCourty, Kyle Wilson, and Patrick Robinson (the guys who were drafted right behind him). KJ was thrown into the fire on one of the worst defenses in history. His growth between seasons one and two was pretty substantial. If he improves again this off season I wouldn't hesitate to say that most fans would see the pick as a success.

That really has nothing to do with this pick though. Apples to oranges.

I think Randle is a better player right now, and I think he will turn out to be the better player. Hill is considered to have better potential because he has better measurable, but I disagree. Hill is the better athlete, but I see Randle ending up as the better football player.
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I don't have a problem with the pick. Randle was always a big talent but didn't get a ton of opportunities in that LSU offense with horrible QB play. I can see him being a threat in the red zone, which is something that the Texans need desperately.

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For how long will Manning be good enough? He will be 30 years old this season.

Barron would be a fantastic pick as he could be a quality, quality backup SS and special teamer for now. We also have a formation in which we bring in another safety. We used Demps on alot of those packages during the year. Put Barron deep and have Quin play that inside cover position or vise versa. It gives us ALOT of versatility, especially with Quin being such a good nickel back. He could take over at SS when we get rid of Manning and Quin could play FS. Not that big of a transition for a guy like Quin to move from SS to FS.

Barron would be a fantastic pick IMO.
Barron is strictly an in the box safety, which we don't use, and is being phased out league wide because everyone is passing, passing, passing.

Putting Barron deep, is asking to get beat deep.
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We're talking about two gifted athletes, so I get going either way. Both were standouts in college and did well at the combine. However, Hill stands out to me as a pretty damn good prospect. He ran a 4.36, his cone drill was like a 6.8 and vertical almost 40". He's an inch taller than Randle, about .2 seconds dater in the 40, jumps 9 inches higher. That's a pretty big advantage if you ask me. Hill's also a team player that excelled at his roll on a team that was based solely on the running game. The dude's almost a can't miss prospect and we have the chance to pick him up at the back end of the 1st round.

To me, Hill's a no brainer.
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