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Old 03-05-2012   #221
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Hey, so sorry I didn't even catch that it started!

Did a little reading on the Panther's forum, seems quite clear they've locked in on getting a big time DT to boost their defensive front. Personally, I'd go with Melvin Ingram, David Decastro or even another DT but since this seems like the big flashy name pick I'd like to take the plunge:

DONTARI POE, DT, MEMPHIS

The big man who put up eye popping numbers. Why not? Could be the next Haloti Ngata. Could be the next Amobi Okoye.
Honestly, not a fan of the pick. I have Poe at ~32 on my board. Too much hype around the guy for me to spend a high first on him. I'd rather go with another DT that was available.

In any case, you can make the pick however you like. You don't have to worry too much about what other people or fans think about the team, you are the GM and you answer to nobody Pick who ever you think is best for that team according to your own evaluation. That could be BPA, position of need, guy with the cool name, surefire HOF guy... whatever, but don't feel pressured to make a pick based on the fanbase or beatwriter's opinions.

We got some time until the next pick, as the Bills GM said he won't pick until this evening.
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Well like I said, I'd like to reflect the opinions of the people who are more in tune to the Panther's progressions. It's really not even much of a topic other than which DT to get. With that settled, me being a "go for the gusto type"....Poe's the pick. Brockers, Still, Worthy...all good picks IMO, even other positions like Ingram or Decastro are definitely BPA. But a man that big who can move it and shake it like Poe just doesn't come around very often. Going for a splash, I might just have ended up with a world record setting "CANNONBAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!! !!!!"
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Honestly, not a fan of the pick. I have Poe at ~32 on my board. Too much hype around the guy for me to spend a high first on him. I'd rather go with another DT that was available.

In any case, you can make the pick however you like. You don't have to worry too much about what other people or fans think about the team, you are the GM and you answer to nobody Pick who ever you think is best for that team according to your own evaluation. That could be BPA, position of need, guy with the cool name, surefire HOF guy... whatever, but don't feel pressured to make a pick based on the fanbase or beatwriter's opinions.

We got some time until the next pick, as the Bills GM said he won't pick until this evening.
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It seems the Jaguars have been picking DEs high for years with not much return.
Exactly what I was thinking.
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someone had to do it
Ehhh, I agree with him. Much better prospects available, especially for a 4-3 team.

Not gonna dog the guy or anything because a real GM is going to do the same thing come draft time, but the guy's film does not say top 10 talent. Hell it doesn't even say 1st round talent.
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The 1st nine picks have been very interesting.

3 OT's and 2 DL.

I think Texans fans have learned that building a great team starts from the inside out.
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The 1st nine picks have been very interesting.

3 OT's and 2 DL.

I think Texans fans have learned that building a great team starts from the inside out.
Either that, or the skill position players (besides Blackmon) arent anything to write home about.
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Trying to talk myself out of Tannehill being an immediate upgrade over Sanchize for the Jets.

Please someone between 10-16 take him out of the equation.
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Trying to talk myself out of Tannehill being an immediate upgrade over Sanchize for the Jets.

Please someone between 10-16 take him out of the equation.
Ill just add that generally coaches in their 4th season dont start over with new QB's. Unless Rex has a guarantee from the owner that he has multiple years left as head coach.
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Ill just add that generally coaches in their 4th season dont start over with new QB's. Unless Rex has a guarantee from the owner that he has multiple years left as head coach.
Yeah totally wouldn't happen. Although if Luck or Griffin by some miracle fell you would have to think twice.

I just really don't rate Sanchez, and as an ex-Jets fan (pre-Texans existence) I have a soft spot for them.
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The 1st nine picks have been very interesting.

3 OT's and 2 DL.

I think Texans fans have learned that building a great team starts from the inside out.
I wouldn't be surprised to see something like this happen at the actual draft. The Giants have laid down the blueprint.
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Interesting comments so far but the biggest reach for me was the Jonathan Martin pick. No offense meant but I would have thought him to be a last third of the first round at best pick. Though having said that I saw him anywhere from 20 to 75 on different websites.
After sounding a bit negative there I have to admit I've checked the site around 25 times the past 2 days seeing if I'm up next
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I've seen Martin go as early as nine. It mostly depends on your feelings about Reilly Reiff, some people don't think he has what it takes to be a LT in this league and drop him in value, while Martin is generously considered at least the 3rd OT. I've seen him projected in the top half of drafts for months
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I've seen Martin go as early as nine. It mostly depends on your feelings about Reilly Reiff, some people don't think he has what it takes to be a LT in this league and drop him in value, while Martin is generously considered at least the 3rd OT. I've seen him projected in the top half of drafts for months
Reiff is a RT so if you're in for a LT then Martin is the next logical choice.

We've seen with OT's and QB's that it doesn't matter if you're the #20 rated prospect, you still have a great shot to go top 10 because it is a premium drafting position.
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Reiff is a RT so if you're in for a LT then Martin is the next logical choice.

We've seen with OT's and QB's that it doesn't matter if you're the #20 rated prospect, you still have a great shot to go top 10 because it is a premium drafting position.
Excellent point & reason why you see the same teams always picking early, they fail to capitalize value.
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Excellent point & reason why you see the same teams always picking early, they fail to capitalize value.
That might change with the new CBA. Draft picks won't be getting paid $50 mil anymore so teams won't have as big a problem taking non-premium position players as high.
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I went with Martin as i have him higher on my draft board.
Also the redskins in this draft (possibly in the real one) are in quite the pickle as there was no real BPA that would fit a real need.
It was either martin or floyd (again who i have higher then blackmon) but i feel that the WR group is not that bad and they will probably grab someone in FA
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From what I've looked at, not sure there are many top 10 worthy players.

Weak draft?
Yeah i think this year the top half of the draft is a little weak compared to previous years but there is BIG TIME value from pick 20 to the 4th round
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I went with Martin as i have him higher on my draft board.
Also the redskins in this draft (possibly in the real one) are in quite the pickle as there was no real BPA that would fit a real need.
It was either martin or floyd (again who i have higher then blackmon) but i feel that the WR group is not that bad and they will probably grab someone in FA
I agree but that Alabama RB was staring at them also. If they don't trade up, I see them possibly trading down.
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I agree but that Alabama RB was staring at them also. If they don't trade up, I see them possibly trading down.
yeah would have loved to trade down.
Helu fits what they do well. they run the zone-blocking scheme like us and don't need a first round talent to fit that. so richardson i never really considered.
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