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Old 02-08-2012   #21
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Let's bring in Peyton Manning to get him the ball and he'll get in the HOF for sure with a few great years.

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If players like Art Monk can get in, considering how important AJ is to this franchise and the fact that he is held in high regard over HWSNBN (who was the first pick in the franchise's history) is a testament to his abilities and his on the field and of the field work.
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Default Re: Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??

Honestly, the way the hall of fame voters treat WRs, none of them can be true locks even if they should be.
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Default Re: Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??

I think what hurts his chances is touchdowns....lack of.....
If he stays healthy and brings his touchdown total up...and gets to a Superbowl and has a game like Fitzgerald had like vs the Steelers....I think it would help his chances.....he needs to put up the numbers.....
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For multiple seasons AJ was considered to be the #1 player at his position in the entire NFL. Its players like that who should get into the hall of fame.
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For multiple seasons AJ was considered to be the #1 player at his position in the entire NFL. Its players like that who should get into the hall of fame.
AJ was like that non-mainstream rock band that is really better than the latest flavor...
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HOF, no doubt.
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If players like Art Monk can get in, considering how important AJ is to this franchise and the fact that he is held in high regard over HWSNBN (who was the first pick in the franchise's history) is a testament to his abilities and his on the field and of the field work.
That's not a strong endorsement for AJ into the HoF when you consider how long it took for Art Monk to be voted in. That was a debate that raged for many years.
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Default Re: Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??

Considering other great WRs haven't gotten in, AJ will need to win a championship to give himself a good chance. If he wins more than one ring, he'll be a lock.

The resume just looks so much better when you can list "Superbowl Winner" or "2-Time Superbowl Winner".
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Default Re: Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??

I'm going to say yes...but it's going to take a long, long time. Maybe 10, 15 years after he's retired. He's on the fringe I think. If he can put up some huge seasons the next few years, and if the Texans can get to a Super Bowl and an AFC championship game or two then that will definitely help his cause.
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I'm going to say yes...but it's going to take a long, long time. Maybe 10, 15 years after he's retired. He's on the fringe I think. If he can put up some huge seasons the next few years, and if the Texans can get to a Super Bowl and an AFC championship game or two then that will definitely help his cause.
I think it's going to take rings, not one, but plural for AJ to make it. Seems like the voters have a hard on for WRs. Not saying I agree, but I know what I see.
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TO is going to go into the HOF, and so is Randy Moss and neither of those guys have rings. Marvin Harrison and Torry Holt are probably going in (Holt is a maybe) and both of those guys only have 1 ring.

In AJ's class you're going to have Larry Fitz (no rings), probably Reggie Wayne (1 ring), probably Calvin Johnson (no rings), and then whats leftover from the Moss/Owens/Harrison/Holt/Brown/Carter brigade that is currently not in. It's a jammed up group of lots of talented wideouts, and a lot of those guys have TD numbers that make one drool.

If he gets in, he's going to need to put up some herculean performances on the wrong side of 30.
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TO is going to go into the HOF, and so is Randy Moss and neither of those guys have rings. Marvin Harrison and Torry Holt are probably going in (Holt is a maybe) and both of those guys only have 1 ring.

In AJ's class you're going to have Larry Fitz (no rings), probably Reggie Wayne (1 ring), probably Calvin Johnson (no rings), and then whats leftover from the Moss/Owens/Harrison/Holt/Brown/Carter brigade that is currently not in. It's a jammed up group of lots of talented wideouts, and a lot of those guys have TD numbers that make one drool.

If he gets in, he's going to need to put up some herculean performances on the wrong side of 30.
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That's not a strong endorsement for AJ into the HoF when you consider how long it took for Art Monk to be voted in. That was a debate that raged for many years.
I remember the Art Monk thing, personally I think he should have been in a lot sooner.
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HOF, no doubt.
I think it's more like "HOF, no way."

We all like AJ here with good reason, but no, he has neither the playoff history nor the stats to be in a HOf discussion yet.

He is a good guy, and hopefully that will change. My sense is that playing his entire career in Houston isn't going to help though.
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Love me some AJ, but no, he's not a HOFer at this point. If Chris Carter and Tim Brown can't make it in, how will AJ?

They both have over 100 TDs. AJ barely has over 50. His reception and yardage number should be on par after a few more seasons. But his TD numbers will never catch up to HOF type numbers. He'll have to kick ass in the yardage department in order to make it in, imo.

I'm in no way blaming AJ for the lack of TD production. We all know what he's had to deal with in his career
Yep. I'm afraid this is the sad, unfair truth. He'll have to put up eye-popping TD and yardage numbers and/or be MVP in a Super Bowl or two to get the attention and votes he needs to get one of those ugly yellow sportcoats.

It ain't fair really....
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Not sure. Production wise he's lacking, but I think the voters are stupid not having some of the excluded WRs in, not necessarily a matter of those WRs not being worthy.

I know that outside of Rice and Randy Moss, Andre is the most physically-talented, skilled WR I've ever seen.
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If players like Art Monk can get in, considering how important AJ is to this franchise and the fact that he is held in high regard over HWSNBN (who was the first pick in the franchise's history) is a testament to his abilities and his on the field and of the field work.
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That's not a strong endorsement for AJ into the HoF when you consider how long it took for Art Monk to be voted in. That was a debate that raged for many years.
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Considering other great WRs haven't gotten in, AJ will need to win a championship to give himself a good chance. If he wins more than one ring, he'll be a lock.

The resume just looks so much better when you can list "Superbowl Winner" or "2-Time Superbowl Winner".
Art Monk had THREE Super Bowl rings and was the All-Time leader in receptions when he retired in 1995 and it STILL took them until 2008 to vote him in. Monk should have been a lock. But they treat WRs just a little bit better than kickers when it comes to HoF voting. No one has ever given a satisfactory reason why that is.

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TO is going to go into the HOF, and so is Randy Moss and neither of those guys have rings. Marvin Harrison and Torry Holt are probably going in (Holt is a maybe) and both of those guys only have 1 ring.

In AJ's class you're going to have Larry Fitz (no rings), probably Reggie Wayne (1 ring), probably Calvin Johnson (no rings), and then whats leftover from the Moss/Owens/Harrison/Holt/Brown/Carter brigade that is currently not in. It's a jammed up group of lots of talented wideouts, and a lot of those guys have TD numbers that make one drool.

If he gets in, he's going to need to put up some herculean performances on the wrong side of 30.
Moss will have to get in first - he has that 25 TD season on his resume and all those great years in Minn. OTOH, he'll have issues because of the time he goofed off in Oakland. And as many highlight catches and 100+ catch seasons that Harrison has on his resume' (not to mention he carried Peyton in the early years of his career) he'll probably have wait to get in because of the way his career ended (that gun thing).

Unless they start treating WRs better, A.J. is gonna have a tough time getting in. ESPECIALLY if there isn't a SB win or two (preferrably a SB MVP) for his supporters to point to.
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I think it's more like "HOF, no way."

We all like AJ here with good reason, but no, he has neither the playoff history nor the stats to be in a HOf discussion yet.

He is a good guy, and hopefully that will change. My sense is that playing his entire career in Houston isn't going to help though.
I think playing on the Texans actually will help him. I'm sure he'd get a few votes just to have a Texan in the HOF.

With that said Carter is getting in, Andre's numbers are lacking but lets remember he's 30 and he's a WR. Lets not talk like he has 2 years left. T.O played until he was what 37? Andre takes good care of his body it seems and is not a head case. I can easily see him playing 7 more years and still producing as a top 5 WR in his mid-late 30s.

Just look at Moss who had one of his best years ever later in his career with the Pats. Now if only we could say Matt and Andre stay healthy. I think he'd pass Carter's numbers then.
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