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Old 02-01-2012   #61
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I've been moving away from walters site as it pertains to draft analysis.
Also, in his latest draft, he doesn't think Dwight Jones is worth a pick in the first 4 rounds (I know he forgot about him, but I thought it was funny)
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http://walterfootball.com/offseason2012hou.php

check out this! givens an in-depth look into the texans and what they need to do over the off-season.

nothing we didnt know already though
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Nose Tackle: This is the only weakness in Houston's front seven. The team needs a new nose tackle. Players who fit Wade Phillips' scheme possibly available in the second round are Josh Chapman and Brandon Thompson. The Texans also need defensive end depth, but acquiring a new nose tackle will allow Earl Mitchell to move outside.
I still do not understand this. We were the #2 ranked defense, #3 against the pass, #4 against the run.... Wade repeatedly says he doesn't need a big guy to play the nose. Wade says his NT will play the 1 gap... will be a penetrator.
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I've been moving away from walters site as it pertains to draft analysis.
Also, in his latest draft, he doesn't think Dwight Jones is worth a pick in the first 4 rounds (I know he forgot about him, but I thought it was funny)
He's got Dwight Jones going #122 in the 4th round to New Orleans, one pick after we take Marvin McNutt at #121.
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He's got Dwight Jones going #122 in the 4th round to New Orleans, one pick after we take Marvin McNutt at #121.
He Mc be Nutts!! Sorry, I had to go there.
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I still do not understand this. We were the #2 ranked defense, #3 against the pass, #4 against the run.... Wade repeatedly says he doesn't need a big guy to play the nose. Wade says his NT will play the 1 gap... will be a penetrator.
Sounds like the Texans will be drafting Mike Martin in rd 3/4.
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He's got Dwight Jones going #122 in the 4th round to New Orleans, one pick after we take Marvin McNutt at #121.
If only either of those two fall that far, I'd take either, in fact probably try to trade back up into 4th to take both. I have them in 2nd.
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If only either of those two fall that far, I'd take either, in fact probably try to trade back up into 4th to take both. I have them in 2nd.
someone has to fall and it could be these guys.

I'm now hoping broyles slips down to the 4th because i see him as our future slot receiver. imo his a slightly bigger wright with slightly less speed but still very quick
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someone has to fall and it could be these guys.

I'm now hoping broyles slips down to the 4th because i see him as our future slot receiver. imo his a slightly bigger wright with slightly less speed but still very quick
Jones and McNutt are solid second round selections and Broyles due to injury recovery time may fall to fourth. Players will not fall more than one round unless combine failure with few exceptions. For example if WR Jordan White moved into the second round all players below him just move down one spot.
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Jones and McNutt are solid second round selections and Broyles due to injury recovery time may fall to fourth. Players will not fall more than one round unless combine failure with few exceptions. For example if WR Jordan White moved into the second round all players below him just move down one spot.
Talent wise, how do you think these guys stack up against guys like Lestar Jean & Jeff Maehl?
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Talent wise, how do you think these guys stack up against guys like Lestar Jean & Jeff Maehl?
I just have not seen enough of Maehl or Jean although both seem to have enough to stick on roster or PS. I 've just seen more of this draft's WRs than these two.
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1. Michael Floyd-WR
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I would be ecstatic if Floyd is there a #26 but afraid Texans would pass him up due to his DUI and legal problems of the past. Not Feeling Toon in the 2nd round and going back to back WR. Would prefer some d-line or o-line depth in the 2nd.
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I would be ecstatic if Floyd is there a #26 but afraid Texans would pass him up due to his DUI and legal problems of the past. Not Feeling Toon in the 2nd round and going back to back WR. Would prefer some d-line or o-line depth in the 2nd.
Have to agree about Floyd. Don't think the Texans will touch him even though he may be better than Jeffery, Sanu, and Wright. And I doubt they go WR in the first 2 rounds also. They've been having the Texans pick Chapman in the 2nd round for quite awhile now so I'm wondering what has made his stock fall. I know he had an injury (knee I think) during the season that he played through. Did he have surgery since the bowl game?
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1. Michael Floyd-WR
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4. Trevor Guyton-DE/DT

I would be ecstatic if Floyd is there a #26 but afraid Texans would pass him up due to his DUI and legal problems of the past. Not Feeling Toon in the 2nd round and going back to back WR. Would prefer some d-line or o-line depth in the 2nd.
Have to agree about Floyd. Don't think the Texans will touch him even though he may be better than Jeffery, Sanu, and Wright. And I doubt they go WR in the first 2 rounds also. They've been having the Texans pick Chapman in the 2nd round for quite awhile now so I'm wondering what has made his stock fall. I know he had an injury (knee I think) during the season that he played through. Did he have surgery since the bowl game?
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1. Michael Floyd-WR
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3. Josh Chapman-NT
4. Trevor Guyton-DE/DT

I would be ecstatic if Floyd is there a #26 but afraid Texans would pass him up due to his DUI and legal problems of the past. Not Feeling Toon in the 2nd round and going back to back WR. Would prefer some d-line or o-line depth in the 2nd.
If we got floyd i will be ecstatic. easily my favourite player in the draft. but just havnt talked about him to much because i thought he would be out of reach and still do.

and i don't think houston will pass on him. his a team player with a couple of DUI no real big issue. his cleaned up his image this year a lot so i think houston would take him.
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4. Trevor Guyton-DE/DT

I would be ecstatic if Floyd is there a #26 but afraid Texans would pass him up due to his DUI and legal problems of the past. Not Feeling Toon in the 2nd round and going back to back WR. Would prefer some d-line or o-line depth in the 2nd.
Floyd would be the ideal pick, as I think he's the second best WR in the draft, but I don't see him getting past the Browns @ 22. There are plenty of teams from 10-22 that would like to snatch up good WRs. Toon's kinda meh to me. He just doesn't strike me as a second round talent, although this is the later part of the round. Plus he was in the Big 10, and that was probably the worst big conference last year. I'd rather go o-line here. His teammate Zeitler would be ideal.

Chapman in the 3rd is also nice as he was mocked quite a bit as our 2nd round pick. Dunno what made him fall in Walter's eyes over the last couple weeks. I like the Guyton pick too, as we do need some DE depth.
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I would be ecstatic if Floyd is there a #26 but afraid Texans would pass him up due to his DUI and legal problems of the past. Not Feeling Toon in the 2nd round and going back to back WR. Would prefer some d-line or o-line depth in the 2nd.
Is it sad that I would rather the Texans pick up guys with weed charges than guys with DUI's? Seems like the weed guys fall far in the draft and then overperform a lot of the time.
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Floyd would be the ideal pick, as I think he's the second best WR in the draft, but I don't see him getting past the Browns @ 22. There are plenty of teams from 10-22 that would like to snatch up good WRs. Toon's kinda meh to me. He just doesn't strike me as a second round talent, although this is the later part of the round. Plus he was in the Big 10, and that was probably the worst big conference last year. I'd rather go o-line here. His teammate Zeitler would be ideal.

Chapman in the 3rd is also nice as he was mocked quite a bit as our 2nd round pick. Dunno what made him fall in Walter's eyes over the last couple weeks. I like the Guyton pick too, as we do need some DE depth.
Agree on all points. Floyd #2 WR but three alcohol issues hard to over look for Texans. If he can prove sobriety AND a support system, maybe. My current personal mock is Wright, Zeitler and Chapman. I think Chapman's ACL was reason he dropped but was reason I now mock him in 3rd as unaware until injury brought out after his season. Ok With Guyton but I like Wolfe better and is my 4th with Jordan White in 5th.
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Agree on all points. Floyd #2 WR but three alcohol issues hard to over look for Texans. If he can prove sobriety AND a support system, maybe. My current personal mock is Wright, Zeitler and Chapman. I think Chapman's ACL was reason he dropped but was reason I now mock him in 3rd as unaware until injury brought out after his season. Ok With Guyton but I like Wolfe better and is my 4th with Jordan White in 5th.
Chapman tore his ACL? When did this happen??
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Chapman tore his ACL? When did this happen??
It was posted in one of the threads (mock or NFl forum I think). It stood out to me as he continued to play on it allegedly and I have done battle with many on MB all season as I did not see Chapman being as good as they did. He had little lateral movement and almost no drive into line if blocked. ANd I focused on him all season wanting to see what I was missing. Now how he played on that type of injury is a mystery. I 'll see if I can link but going to bed soon.
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Here you go: http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2...ost_of_20.html

missed the Georgia Southern game to rest his injured knee
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