2012 Walterfootball Mock Draft.

[Rey]

Quinn has made some plays, no doubt....

But we should have someone challenging him for his position because we can get better there...No one we currently have is going to even challenge him for playing time, and if you're not a pro bowler or an all pro that's not how it should be...

GQ has been pretty good overall, but he has not been phenomenal....There I said it...

It's not a "must replace him situation", but some competition back there would help...

[Wolf6151]

Originally Posted by aussie_texan

Just updated:

Round 1: Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina
Round 2: Josh Chapman, NT, Alabama
Round 3: Robert Lester, S, Alabama
Round 4: Trevor Guyton, DE/DT, California

unsure over the safety pick. again he uses the point of quinn not playing well which i disagree.

pretty happy with the other picks though

If this were how our draft went down, I'd be happy. I'd like an O-lineman in their but those first 3 picks are pretty good ones.

[Insideop]

Originally Posted by aussie_texan

Just updated:

Round 1: Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina
Round 2: Josh Chapman, NT, Alabama
Round 3: Robert Lester, S, Alabama
Round 4: Trevor Guyton, DE/DT, California

unsure over the safety pick. again he uses the point of quinn not playing well which i disagree.

pretty happy with the other picks though

Considering how they have Jeffery rated a top 20 pick and then have the Texans picking him at #27, I'd be very happy with the draft if it fell this way. I just don't think Jeffery will last that long unless he has a bad Combine or something else comes out about him to make his stock fall.

As for the whole "Quinn experiment not working" thing, I'm not sure what Walter is seeing, but I don't think he is seeing the complete picture. Quinn has been a good SS for us this year and it's only his 1st year at the position. Will he ever get a lot of picks during a season? Probably not. Should we draft someone to give him competition and add depth to the team? Yes!

[aussie_texan]

Originally Posted by Rey

Quinn has made some plays, no doubt....

But we should have someone challenging him for his position because we can get better there...No one we currently have is going to even challenge him for playing time, and if you're not a pro bowler or an all pro that's not how it should be...

GQ has been pretty good overall, but he has not been phenomenal....There I said it...

It's not a "must replace him situation", but some competition back there would help...

what about Nolan once he returns from injury and demps hasn't been bad this year. considering we have other needs like o-line which he didn't address in the first 4 picks i think we can pass on safety this year. unless someone big drops like barron to the late 2nd (which is VERY doubtful)

[Wolf6151]

Walter updated his mock draft 1-18 and made one change to the Texans picks.

1. Alshon Jeffery-WR
2. Josh Chapman-NT
3. Tommy Streeter-WR
4. Trevor Guyton-DE/DT

Walter previously had Robert Lester-FS going to us in the 3rd round. I like the new pick Tommy Streeter better. Streeter is young and raw but has tons of potential. He's tall, fast, great hands, very athletic, etc... he's got it all but only has 1 year of experience starting at Miami. He'd probably be 4th on the depth chart for us but I think he's worth the investment. He could be a stud WR in a couple years.

[Rey]

Originally Posted by aussie_texan

what about Nolan once he returns from injury and demps hasn't been bad this year. considering we have other needs like o-line which he didn't address in the first 4 picks i think we can pass on safety this year. unless someone big drops like barron to the late 2nd (which is VERY doubtful)

Like I said...

No one on the team is even going to challenge him for his position.

This draft should mostly be about value as we have the least amount of holes that we've ever had.

Therefore, if a safety falls to us in round whatever and we have them rated much higher than everyone else on the board...we should take them. I wouldn't avoid any position.

[Dutchrudder]

Originally Posted by Wolf6151

Walter updated his mock draft 1-18 and made one change to the Texans picks.

1. Alshon Jeffery-WR
2. Josh Chapman-NT
3. Tommy Streeter-WR
4. Trevor Guyton-DE/DT

Walter previously had Robert Lester-FS going to us in the 3rd round. I like the new pick Tommy Streeter better. Streeter is young and raw but has tons of potential. He's tall, fast, great hands, very athletic, etc... he's got it all but only has 1 year of experience starting at Miami. He'd probably be 4th on the depth chart for us but I think he's worth the investment. He could be a stud WR in a couple years.

I don't see the point of spending a 1st and 3rd on WRs. If we got Jeffery, I would prefer to address other needs in the 3rd and pickup a late round WR/PR/KR in the 5/6/7th. Get a LB in 3rd instead, we need some more depth there.

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by Wolf6151

Walter updated his mock draft 1-18 and made one change to the Texans picks.

1. Alshon Jeffery-WR
2. Josh Chapman-NT
3. Tommy Streeter-WR
4. Trevor Guyton-DE/DT

Walter previously had Robert Lester-FS going to us in the 3rd round. I like the new pick Tommy Streeter better. Streeter is young and raw but has tons of potential. He's tall, fast, great hands, very athletic, etc... he's got it all but only has 1 year of experience starting at Miami. He'd probably be 4th on the depth chart for us but I think he's worth the investment. He could be a stud WR in a couple years.

I would be estatic with this draft.

Jeffery and Chapman are 10 yr starters in the NFL. Streeter has the ability to be better than Jeffery. Guyton should fit in well with Wades defense.

[Wolf6151]

Originally Posted by Dutchrudder

I don't see the point of spending a 1st and 3rd on WRs. If we got Jeffery, I would prefer to address other needs in the 3rd and pickup a late round WR/PR/KR in the 5/6/7th. Get a LB in 3rd instead, we need some more depth there.

I think Walters point is that we'd have the WR position solidified for years to come with great talent and depth. Streeter has great potential and all the ability to be a #1 in the NFL he just lacks the playing time. He's raw and will need some development but the investment is well worth the risk if you can get him in the 3rd, he'd be great value. Personally I don't think he's still available, I think he goes in the 2nd round based on his Combine and potential. I also think that AJ will have some say so in this decision. He goes back to Miami during the offseason and works out at the "U". I'm sure he knows Streeter and the Texans would be foolish not to at least ask his opinion of Streeter. Streeter could learn from the best.

[Wolf6151]

Walter updated his mock again on 01-25-12.

1. Alshon Jeffery-WR
2. Josh Chapman-NT
3. Stephen Hill-WR
4. Trevor Guyton-DE/DT

The only change is Stephen Hill-WR from Georgia Tech instead of Tommy Streeter. Anyone know anything about Stephen Hill? Anyone think it's possible that we take 2 WR's in the first 3 rounds?

[otisbean]

Originally Posted by Wolf6151

Walter updated his mock again on 01-25-12.

1. Alshon Jeffery-WR
2. Josh Chapman-NT
3. Stephen Hill-WR
4. Trevor Guyton-DE/DT

The only change is Stephen Hill-WR from Georgia Tech instead of Tommy Streeter. Anyone know anything about Stephen Hill? Anyone think it's possible that we take 2 WR's in the first 3 rounds?

I remember seeing a quote about Stephen Hill saying the way to find diamonds in the rough at the WR position was to look for WRs from running teams and teams with bad QB play in college. They can typically run block very well (which is important for us) and are use to catching bad passes. Here's the link: http://www.drafttek.com/CMDRound1_17-32.asp They have us taking him in rd 1 - HIGHLY doubt that but he might be worth a look in rd 3

I definitely could see 2 WRs in the first 4 rounds if the value is good. Personally, I think our draft may look more like WR, OG, BPA, BPA ect...

On a side note, Baylor has a wide body NT, Nicolas Jean-Baptiste, that performed very well during the Shriner game practice week. Supposedly very tough to block. Could be had in a later rd

[mussop]

Originally Posted by otisbean

I remember seeing a quote about Stephen Hill saying the way to find diamonds in the rough at the WR position was to look for WRs from running teams and teams with bad QB play in college. They can typically run block very well (which is important for us) and are use to catching bad passes. Here's the link: http://www.drafttek.com/CMDRound1_17-32.asp They have us taking him in rd 1 - HIGHLY doubt that but he might be worth a look in rd 3

I definitely could see 2 WRs in the first 4 rounds if the value is good. Personally, I think our draft may look more like WR, OG, BPA, BPA ect...

On a side note, Baylor has a wide body NT, Nicolas Jean-Baptiste, that performed very well during the Shriner game practice week. Supposedly very tough to block. Could be had in a later rd

Jarrett Boykin WR 33 Virginia Tech

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by Wolf6151

Walter updated his mock again on 01-25-12.

1. Alshon Jeffery-WR
2. Josh Chapman-NT
3. Stephen Hill-WR
4. Trevor Guyton-DE/DT

The only change is Stephen Hill-WR from Georgia Tech instead of Tommy Streeter. Anyone know anything about Stephen Hill? Anyone think it's possible that we take 2 WR's in the first 3 rounds?

I like it, except give me Kaddu instead of Guyton.

I not only think that it's possible.

If I were making the call it would happen in the 3/4th rd. Hill is a Big WR who was the Georgia state sprint champion in high school.

[Playoffs]

I don't know how you pass on a guy with a name like,

Vontaze Burfict

Guaranteed to be a star with that name!

[ArlingtonTexan]

Originally Posted by Wolf6151

Walter updated his mock again on 01-25-12.

1. Alshon Jeffery-WR
2. Josh Chapman-NT
3. Stephen Hill-WR
4. Trevor Guyton-DE/DT

The only change is Stephen Hill-WR from Georgia Tech instead of Tommy Streeter. Anyone know anything about Stephen Hill? Anyone think it's possible that we take 2 WR's in the first 3 rounds?

Hill is another very big WR who looks to have good straighline speed. Hands and route running are in question. Thought hw was a later round developmental type than a 3rd rounder.

[TimeKiller]

Originally Posted by otisbean

I remember seeing a quote about Stephen Hill saying the way to find diamonds in the rough at the WR position was to look for WRs from running teams and teams with bad QB play in college. They can typically run block very well (which is important for us) and are use to catching bad passes. Here's the link: http://www.drafttek.com/CMDRound1_17-32.asp They have us taking him in rd 1 - HIGHLY doubt that but he might be worth a look in rd 3

I definitely could see 2 WRs in the first 4 rounds if the value is good. Personally, I think our draft may look more like WR, OG, BPA, BPA ect...

On a side note, Baylor has a wide body NT, Nicolas Jean-Baptiste, that performed very well during the Shriner game practice week. Supposedly very tough to block. Could be had in a later rd

I picked him I think in the 5th of my last mock. He's listed with like a 5.0 40 yard dash as a 320 pound guy. That's disgusting. I think he probably gets looked at by a lot of teams, not just the Texans

I'd rather have Streeter as far as Walter's mock goes. He seems like a very, very athletic...very, very raw talent. Like a mega Jacoby Jones, bigger, possibly faster...I've only seen one highlight reel of him and it wasn't impressive but the physical assets are interesting.

[aussie_texan]

http://walterfootball.com/offseason2012hou.php

check out this! givens an in-depth look into the texans and what they need to do over the off-season.

nothing we didnt know already though

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by aussie_texan

http://walterfootball.com/offseason2012hou.php

check out this! givens an in-depth look into the texans and what they need to do over the off-season.

nothing we didnt know already though

Rackers is a "four star" kicker?
who knew...?

Neil Rackers, K, Texans. Age: 36.
Neil Rackers' field-goal percentages over the past four years: 89.3, 94.1, 90.0 and 84.2. He's 7-of-9 from 50-plus in the previous two seasons. Only his age (36) is a concern.

Thanks for the link though...
Interesting stuff

[WolverineFan]

Originally Posted by Wolf6151

Walter updated his mock again on 01-25-12.

1. Alshon Jeffery-WR
2. Josh Chapman-NT
3. Stephen Hill-WR
4. Trevor Guyton-DE/DT

The only change is Stephen Hill-WR from Georgia Tech instead of Tommy Streeter. Anyone know anything about Stephen Hill? Anyone think it's possible that we take 2 WR's in the first 3 rounds?

Hill is basically a less talented Demaryius Thomas. I would prefer a guy like Streeter, but to be honest I don't think we need 2 WR's in the first 4 rounds.

[Wolf6151]

Walter has another update as of 02-01-12.

1. Peter Knoz-C
2. Josh Chapman-NT
3. Tommy Streeter-WR
4. Marvin McNutt-WR

Looks pretty good to me but I have my doubts that Streeter and McNutt fall this far.