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Old 01-09-2012   #41
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He would have to beat out Tate for 2nd position....I dont see that happening.....Ward is your insurance policy
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Old 01-09-2012   #42
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You're comparing him to Foster.

In the Cincy game he was 9 carries for 37 yds is 4.1 per... That's not exactly suckage. But it looks like it when you compare it to Arian. If you can depend on 4.1 yd/carry from our RB, that will keep the offense "on schedule". And he does have the ability to break one like he did against Tenn.

Kubiak is just riding the hot back, and that's Foster.

do you blame him?
I just mean he hasnt looked as good as he did earlier in the season.
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I'm sorry but tate has been virtually ineffective of late.
I thought so too, but he did pretty well against Tennessee. He did have some games in the later part of the season where he just disappeared though. I wouldn't be against Ward getting some more carries over Tate, but only if Tates struggles early in the game when he relieves Foster.
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He would have to beat out Tate for 2nd position....I dont see that happening.....Ward is your insurance policy
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BTW, I heard a story where it was Derrick Ward that approached Kubiak to tell him to put Foster back in. Told Kubiak (paraphrased), "he's fine, he's ready".. If true a very classy move from a veteran.
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I'm sorry but tate has been virtually ineffective of late.
He had a bad game against the Colts (6 rushes for -1 yard). Besides that he didn't have a game where he averaged less than 3.7 yards per rush. Tate averaged 5.4 yards rushing the ball this year, a whole yard better on average than Foster (4.4 yards per rush for Foster). Foster had seven games where he averaged less than 3.7 per attempt (Miami, Oakland, Baltimore, Jacksonville x2, Atlanta & Cincinnati). For comparison sake Ward averaged 3.4 yards per attempt this year.
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The Giants use Bradshaw, Jacobs, and Ware so it is not unheard of to use all three.
The Giants were also last in rushing yards per game. If Ahmad didn't have his foot operation, Ware wouldn't be getting any looks. Likewise with the Saints, Sproles isn't built to handle 15 touches a game, so Thomas and eventually Ivory are given the chance to handle the short yards and between-the-tackles runs that Ingram was struggling with.

Having too many capable rb's is a great problem to have, but if this team is running 30 times a game, 20 to Foster and 10 to Tate already sounds like the floor for their workload if they're healthy.
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He had a bad game against the Colts (6 rushes for -1 yard). Besides that he didn't have a game where he averaged less than 3.7 yards per rush. Tate averaged 5.4 yards rushing the ball this year, a whole yard better on average than Foster (4.4 yards per rush for Foster). Foster had seven games where he averaged less than 3.7 per attempt (Miami, Oakland, Baltimore, Jacksonville x2, Atlanta & Cincinnati). For comparison sake Ward averaged 3.4 yards per attempt this year.
I say we release Tate for maybe a good draft pick or hell maybe even a decent receiver
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I say we release Tate for maybe a good draft pick or hell maybe even a decent receiver
...and let Foster carry the team? He's not going to last too long if he's the sole, featured back.

You don't release a budding, 2nd round talent. Without Tate, we're an injury away from a 30+ year old, 6.9 40-yard dash time RB starting.
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I say we release Tate for maybe a good draft pick or hell maybe even a decent receiver
Why is it every time we get a good player someone wants to trade him for an unknown player that might b good.

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Default Re: Should Derrick Ward Get More Carries?

I like Ward for the role he fills, but that's what it is. He brings veteran leadership, and is a guy who's won a Super Bowl. I read somewhere where Arian complimented him for helping him develop as a back.

In saying that though, he doesn't need to take carries away from our top 2 backs. He's likely playing his last few games as a Texans. We'll be able to get a younger, cheaper back either in FA or in the draft this year.
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