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JamesBill · 01-09-2012

It is a shame to see how JJ Watt has hit his rookie wall with a unbelievable dominating performance in Tenn and against the Bengals.

Rookie wall means that rookies always become All-Pro's late in the regular season and into the playoffs right?

cuppacoffee · 01-09-2012

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Originally Posted by JamesBill

It is a shame to see how JJ Watt has hit his rookie wall with a unbelievable dominating performance in Tenn and against the Bengals.

Rookie wall means that rookies always become All-Pro's late in the regular season and into the playoffs right?

Just think how good he will be when he clears the wall.

TexanBacker93 · 01-09-2012

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Originally Posted by cuppacoffee

Just think how good he will be when he clears the wall.

I think he's more likely to run through the wall, stop, go back, and pound the pieces into the ground.

thunderkyss · 01-09-2012

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Originally Posted by JamesBill

It is a shame to see how JJ Watt has hit his rookie wall with a unbelievable dominating performance in Tenn and against the Bengals.

Rookie wall means that rookies always become All-Pro's late in the regular season and into the playoffs right?

In all honesty, I think Watt hit the rookie wall around the time Mario got hurt. We didn't see or hear much from either Watt or Smith (or Jamison, or Mitchell).

Then Watt found something (spinach?) around the second Indy game. That's the game he started to take over (imo). Then Saturday you saw Watt, Smith, Mitchell all making noise.

So we're past the rookie wall thing, now we're working on the sophomore slump.

JamesBill · 01-09-2012

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss

Then Watt found something (spinach?) around the second Indy game. That's the game he started to take over (imo). Then Saturday you saw Watt, Smith, Mitchell all making noise.

The insanity point for me was the Titans game. Couldn't believe it.

IDEXAN · 01-09-2012

The big fella is truly playing some great ball.

El Tejano · 01-09-2012

Dude has shoulders that make it look like the hanger is still inside the shirt he has on.

**beerlover** · 01-09-2012

I think he hit the wall shortly after the pick then gathered himself, took it in & rest, as they say, is history

Big Lou · 01-09-2012

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss

In all honesty, I think Watt hit the rookie wall around the time Mario got hurt. We didn't see or hear much from either Watt or Smith (or Jamison, or Mitchell).

Then Watt found something (spinach?) around the second Indy game. That's the game he started to take over (imo). Then Saturday you saw Watt, Smith, Mitchell all making noise.

So we're past the rookie wall thing, now we're working on the sophomore slump.

Watt takes games off. He took off some games to be ready for the playoffs, should have drafted a high motor guy........

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, totally kidding, love that guy. I was watching the game at a bar with a buddy, and a series before the pick 6 I told him what a bad ass Watt is, and then BAM he showed how bad he is!!!!

JamesBill · 01-09-2012

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Originally Posted by Big Lou

Watt takes games off. He took off some games to be ready for the playoffs, should have drafted a high motor guy........

Also calling him a high motor guy at this point seems like a complete insult. He is a beast of a physical mismatch, who also happens to try as hard as he can every single play.

CloakNNNdagger · 01-09-2012

The ROOKIE WALL comes in the 2nd year.........that's why it's also referred to as THE SOPHOMORE SLUMP.

**EllisUnit** · 01-09-2012

speaking of rookie walls. It appears to me that tate has hit a minor rookie wall, besides the start against the titans he seems ineffective when he's in now.

Hervoyel · 01-09-2012

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Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger

The ROOKIE WALL comes in the 2nd year.........that's why it's also referred to as THE SOPHOMORE SLUMP.

Not as I understand it. I always thought the rookie wall was where your rookies play their last college season, go to bowl games, keep working for Pro days and the combine, through OTA's and training camp, then start playing a season that's 5-6 games longer than they are used to. It varies but at some point they're just out of gas and need that off-season between their first and second year to recover.

Luv_ya_blue · 01-09-2012

I sure hope that he hasn't been hangin' out at
Cush's House of Pharmaceuticals!

The guy is an INSANE FREAK OF NATURE!!

CloakNNNdagger · 01-09-2012

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Originally Posted by Hervoyel

Not as I understand it. I always thought the rookie wall was where your rookies play their last college season, go to bowl games, keep working for Pro days and the combine, through OTA's and training camp, then start playing a season that's 5-6 games longer than they are used to. It varies but at some point they're just out of gas and need that off-season between their first and second year to recover.

Technically you are definitely correct. Since we were speaking of Watts (tongue in cheek), I was making for the case that the season is over, and that if it occurs, it can carry onto the 2nd year.

Hervoyel · 01-09-2012

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Originally Posted by Luv_ya_blue

I sure hope that he hasn't been hangin' out at
Cush's House of Pharmaceuticals!

The guy is an INSANE FREAK OF NATURE!!

Cushing's perspiration is a naturally occuring performance enhancing drug. Just being in the same locker room with him caused a wimpy little Clay Matthews to grow into that monster in Green Bay.

Nobody can say for certain what it will do to Watt. Just nobody add any gama radiation to the mix please.

**eriadoc** · 01-09-2012

The rookie wall thing is real, but it's not a cinch. By all accounts, Watt is a very hard worker, which is something lots of rookies aren't. How many times have we heard Kubiak say about some guy, "he needs to learn to be a pro"? Hasn't said that about Watt, to my knowledge. Also, staying in school the extra year tends to help, IMO. It also helps when the college player is going to bowl games, because that lengthens the season and acclimates the player to that workload.

Anyway, I think it's a combination of factors, and it's pretty evident that Watt is someone really special.

Joeycharp89 · 01-09-2012

I thought we were just referring to Watt as a wall. A very high wall that stops runners and blocks passers at the same time.

**Section516** · 01-09-2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l7Mes2SBo4

Found this randomly on google.

JJ Watt and Cush doing 'Triceps death"

01-09-2012	#1
JamesBill Veteran Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 301 Rep Power: 3110	Rookie wall It is a shame to see how JJ Watt has hit his rookie wall with a unbelievable dominating performance in Tenn and against the Bengals. Rookie wall means that rookies always become All-Pro's late in the regular season and into the playoffs right?

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IDEXAN Hall of Fame Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Challis, ID Age: 47 Posts: 5,079 Rep Power: 8331	Re: Rookie wall The big fella is truly playing some great ball.

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El Tejano Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9,748 Rep Power: 6842	Re: Rookie wall Dude has shoulders that make it look like the hanger is still inside the shirt he has on.

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beerlover Site Contributor Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 11,357 Rep Power: 15075	Re: Rookie wall I think he hit the wall shortly after the pick then gathered himself, took it in & rest, as they say, is history __________________ 2012 Draft was Mercilus

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CloakNNNdagger Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 12,459 Rep Power: 43578	Re: Rookie wall The ROOKIE WALL comes in the 2nd year.........that's why it's also referred to as THE SOPHOMORE SLUMP.

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EllisUnit Homerism Champ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: San Antonio Section: 2" from the TV, Screaming. Age: 28 Posts: 4,159 Rep Power: 15883	Re: Rookie wall speaking of rookie walls. It appears to me that tate has hit a minor rookie wall, besides the start against the titans he seems ineffective when he's in now. __________________ Hmmmmm Superbowl Or Bust !!!

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Luv_ya_blue 1%er Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Beaumont, TX Age: 37 Posts: 3,891 Rep Power: 21294	Re: Rookie wall I sure hope that he hasn't been hangin' out at Cush's House of Pharmaceuticals! The guy is an INSANE FREAK OF NATURE!! __________________ Special Thanks to False Start for the awesome sig! U Rock!

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eriadoc Texan-American Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 15,322 Rep Power: 69629	Re: Rookie wall The rookie wall thing is real, but it's not a cinch. By all accounts, Watt is a very hard worker, which is something lots of rookies aren't. How many times have we heard Kubiak say about some guy, "he needs to learn to be a pro"? Hasn't said that about Watt, to my knowledge. Also, staying in school the extra year tends to help, IMO. It also helps when the college player is going to bowl games, because that lengthens the season and acclimates the player to that workload. Anyway, I think it's a combination of factors, and it's pretty evident that Watt is someone really special. __________________ “The Conservative’s first concern will always be: Are we maximizing freedom?” - Barry Goldwater

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Joeycharp89 Veteran Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 649	Re: Rookie wall I thought we were just referring to Watt as a wall. A very high wall that stops runners and blocks passers at the same time.

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Section516 Warrior Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,257 Rep Power: 5023	Re: Rookie wall http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l7Mes2SBo4 Found this randomly on google. JJ Watt and Cush doing 'Triceps death" __________________ Get there by kickoff.

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