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Old 01-09-2012   #21
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I don't know who came up with this, but it couldn't be more wrong. Yeah, Wade's 1-5 as a HC, but the mere fact he was a DC in a Super Bowl XXIV when he was with the Broncos should be a clue that whoever came up with that is either lazy, stupid, a troll, or some combination of the three.

FWIW, he's also got playoff wins as a DC with the Falcons and the Bills.
i originally thought it was only as HC 1-5, but when I looked at the profootball link last night that was posted in the other thread, it did not list any of those other wins.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...es/PhilWa0.htm


incorrect I read it wrong....

either way 1-5 AS HC is terrible, why would you retread something like that when you could sign someone else who isnt 64 (65 when season starts) and just had surgery? You've had the old bull, now they want the young calf, and they grab him by the bal.....well nevermind, you get the point
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Old 01-09-2012   #22
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Default Re: The reasons Wade will remain in houston.

I am not too concerned about Tampa. Tampa is a couple years away from being a contender for the Superbowl.

Now if he was going to interview for San Diego, Atlanta, Indianapolis, or a team that is just a small piece away from the Superbowl that has an offense in place just needing a stronger defense, then that makes me go . I am mildly concerned, just not overly concerned. I think they are going to go with Sherman or Zimmer. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ycn-10809885

The main problem is now his name is being floated out there. Its sort of like when a waived player gets a tryout and now is on the list of potential canidates.
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I am not too concerned about Tampa. Tampa is a couple years away from being a contender for the Superbowl.

Now if he was going to interview for San Diego, Atlanta, Indianapolis, or a team that is just a small piece away from the Superbowl that has an offense in place just needing a stronger defense, then that makes me go . I am mildly concerned, just not overly concerned. I think they are going to go with Sherman or Zimmer. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ycn-10809885

The main problem is now his name is being floated out there. Its sort of like when a waived player gets a tryout and now is on the list of potential canidates.
You may not be concerned about Tampa, but Wade obviously is. Otherwise, he wouldn't be interviewing for the job and telling people about how he wants to be a head coach again.
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You may not be concerned about Tampa, but Wade obviously is. Otherwise, he wouldn't be interviewing for the job and telling people about how he wants to be a head coach again.
I said I was mildly concerned, not overly concerned. He may just be interviewing to get his name out there to find a better place.
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There is only one: no team offers him a headcoaching job.
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I agree, but I can't figure it out. It's not like he's a 31 year old up and comer that hasn't danced before...
Jerruh & company besmirched Wade's reputation big time after his stint in Dallas. Big time.

He has every right to prove that wrong -- although he was somewhat vindicated by the Cowgirls play this year.
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Jerruh & company besmirched Wade's reputation big time after his stint in Dallas.

Me thinks Jerruh's opinion has become as irrelevant as his team has.

Garrett hasn't exactly come across as any sort of genius of a coach.

Other owners pat Jerruh on the back to feed his ego and further keep him engaged in his ignorance.

Most people aren't so stupid as to not see the difference in Wade from last year to this year. The only difference is Jerruhs ego getting in the way.

I wish Wade well in whatever he decides to do.

It ain't life and death folks.....It's a business .

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I wish Wade well in whatever he decides to do.

It ain't life and death folks.....It's a business .
That's true, but football is an emotional game, full of emotional players, coaches, fans and even sometimes TV announcers. I'm an emotional fan, and I want Wade to stay and I WILL NOT bid him well if he leaves. I'm going to be emotional about it and hate him if he leaves.
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Jerruh & company besmirched Wade's reputation big time after his stint in Dallas. Big time.

He has every right to prove that wrong -- although he was somewhat vindicated by the Cowgirls play this year.
I'm not saying he doesn't have a right to prove everyone wrong. It's not like he hasn't had opportunities, though. He didn't succeed in Denver or Buffalo either. I know he had partial seasons in Atlanta and New Orleans, but I'm not really looking at those. He did get all 3 teams he coached to the playoffs, but only 1 victory in those seasons.

Here's a list of SB winning coaches that had coached previously somewhere else.

Tom Coughlin - 4 playoff appearances in 8 seasons with Jax.
Bill Belichick - 1 playoff season in 5 with the Browns.
Tony Dungy - 4 playoff appearances in 6 seasons with the Bucs.
Jon Gruden - 2 playoff seasons in 4 with Oakland.
Dick Vermeil - 4 playoffs (1 SB appearance) in 7 seasons with Philly.
Mike Shanahan - Nothing in 1 plus seasons with the Raiders.
Don Shula - 3 playoffs (1 SB win) in 7 Seasons with the Colts.

That's it. Parcells took a 2nd team to the SB after leaving his first one, but never found the same success with his 3rd or 4th franchise. Not one of those coaches was a head coach of more than 1 other team before winning the SB. I realize that this is all the past, but I think 45 years is a pretty good sample size. If you want to win a SB you need to find that first time or young 2nd timer and let him grow. A team that has just fired their HC is in need of more than a 1 year turnaround.

I'm sure there are a lot of cases of HC getting teams to a SB after being a HC somewhere before, but the goal should be to win it all.

If a team offers him a position nobody should stand in his way (except maybe his family if it's not something they want). I think a team would be making a mistake with him. It's not just him, either. I don't think retreads are the way to go.
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That's true, but football is an emotional game, full of emotional players, coaches, fans and even sometimes TV announcers. I'm an emotional fan, and I want Wade to stay and I WILL NOT bid him well if he leaves. I'm going to be emotional about it and hate him if he leaves.
What is so strange about all this is that the chapter in the book I am currently reading is all about love/hate relationships.

"Love can turn into savage attack, feelings of hostility, or complete withdrawal of affection at the flick of a switch." -E Tolle

It actually is more about personal, romantic relationships I suppose, but a lot of it does seem to manifest itself in some of the postings in this thread.

Yours is one of the milder manifestations.. I think your maturity stepped in.

I think my "love" of pro-football died when Bud took my Oiler team away. That was a real wake up call.

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My attitude about Wade has now changed because I no longer think of him as this benevolent ole guy who wants only the best for the Texans. Now he's clearly an opportunist, a self-promoter who very easily could have said lets wait until the Texans' post-season is over before we start talking about any ambitions I might have in the future.
This is not to take anything away from his ability as an NFL DC, which is extraordinary. But clearly Wade is like most everybody else in the NFL - he's in it for #1.
Hard to argue your point. However, I'd like for him to stick around as we can see what an impact he's had (especially evident during his two games missed). Personally I think TB will hire Mike Sherman anyway. Not sure who else will look at Wade. Hopefully the Texans playoff run keeps going so teams fill their HC vacancies before he is truly available.
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You know it's getting deep when the Eckhart Tolle card gets played.




It was getting deep long before that.

Have you read the other thread about Wade possibly leaving?

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He is a better D.C than Head coach, i think other teams will realize that (more like hope they will)

We will win the superbowl and he will decide he wants to stay (come on that would be nice)

The main reason he wont leave

His Daddy will Whoop His sons ass. Bend him over his knee tilt that cowboy hat to the side and beat the living hell out of him

Disclaimer - The above poster believes none of this, this is his way of not crying like a little *****.
Whatever the reason he's one tone deaf muffahuffa. His father is picked to lead the bull parade at the start of game festivities and he comes out with this the day after. To be honest I remember Bum and he had a strange way as well. He had the city in his hand and pretty much over played that same hand in an ego duel with Silver spoon Rockabilly Bud and saw it all fall apart. How stupid were they both to break it up at the height of popularity? Bud Adams is and has always been a jackass. However, Bum and son are by no mean perfect when it comes to public relations. Not by a long shot. He should say something of an apology for putting self first at this time of the year.
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It will be a devastating blow to this team if WP leaves. I hope this is just him increasing his stock and that he has no intention on actually leaving.
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We wouldn't be having any of this conversation if Jerry would not have let him go. We would still be fielding a medium to good team who probably would not be in the playoffs. Stay Wade please. But if not thanks for everything this season.
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Possibly / Probably...

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