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Old 01-08-2012   #21
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In technical terms, are we actually blitzing just about every down?

Since we're technically a 3-4 team, wouldn't it be considered a blitz if we rush 4 guys?

If we're always rushing 4 guys, then wouldn't that actually make us a 4-3 team?

Not trying to be an ass, just something I've wondered about. What's the difference between a 3-4 & 4-3 defense if we're stilling lining up 4 guys on the LOS most of the time?
If you have more than one linebacker that has the ability to get to the QB, then the 3-4 is an advantage, because until the ball is snapped, you don't know which 4 players are rushing.

By the same token, if you don't have linebackers who can get pressure with just rushing 4 people, then the 4-3 has the advantage.

The 3-4 works if you have a talented core of linebackers than can get pressure when called upon, and also cover when called upon.

Too much has been made of scheme, and not nearly enough of talent.
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In technical terms, are we actually blitzing just about every down?

Since we're technically a 3-4 team, wouldn't it be considered a blitz if we rush 4 guys?

If we're always rushing 4 guys, then wouldn't that actually make us a 4-3 team?

Not trying to be an ass, just something I've wondered about. What's the difference between a 3-4 & 4-3 defense if we're stilling lining up 4 guys on the LOS most of the time?
No, a blitz is more than 4. The 3-4 works well because you're never sure which OLB is coming pre-snap.
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No, a blitz is more than 4. The 3-4 works well because you're never sure which OLB is coming pre-snap.
It wasn't until last year that I myself came to understand that sending in 4 is NOT technically a blitz in a 3-4...and that not until at least 5 rush is it considered such.
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Blitzing is sending more rushers than available blockers. I think generally that refers to total but I think overloading one side of the line, say sending 3 or 4 against a OT/OG on one side is also technically blitzing.

One thing the Texans do a lot is delayed rushing. Cushing and Reed do this a lot, they'll read what the backs are doing and if they stay in to protect the LBer will charge in hopes of cleaning up the pocket or taking out screen passes. Really, the design was just to rush 3 or 4 but during the play 5 or even 6 will blitz the ball. They didn't blitz often, which I didn't expect at all but great things came from the pressure. Maybe it was the extra man in coverage giving them time or just the blitz getting after it to create bad throws but getting sacks and INTs, the blitz feeding off the coverage, the coverage taking advantage of a QB dodging blitzers....it was just some nice defense!!!
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No, a blitz is more than 4. The 3-4 works well because you're never sure which OLB is coming pre-snap.
That "theory" is thrown out the window when you have a DC like Wade who says the WOLB is coming every time..... Demarcus Ware dropped into coverage 6 times the last year Wade was in Dallas.
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Thought I saw Mitchell penetrate (get skinny) slipping threw the Offensive Linemen clutches for a sack.
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Thought I saw Mitchell penetrate (get skinny) slipping threw the Offensive Linemen clutches for a sack.
You did, he played amazing, our front 7 IMO he top 3 in this league. They are so darn good.
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Thought I saw Mitchell penetrate (get skinny) slipping threw the Offensive Linemen clutches for a sack.
He got through that line sooooo freaking fast...9 yard loss...gotta love it.
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We did a nice job getting in there without blitzing.

It was pretty obvious that Dalton's flu recovery was not complete. His endurance was turfing by the second half. He only attempted 3 runs (for total of 17 yds, with his run in the second quarter alone accounting for 15 yds). He was sacked 3 of the 4 times after the last remaining minute of the first half. He was not moving spritely and it showed.....and we did a good job of taking advantage of it.

A funny piece I came across about Dalton's flu by Dead Spin. Evidently he had a pretty miserable bout.

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We did a nice job getting in there without blitzing.

It was pretty obvious that Dalton's flu recovery was not complete. His endurance was turfing by the second half. He only attempted 3 runs (for total of 17 yds, with his run in the second quarter alone accounting for 15 yds). He was sacked 3 of the 4 times after the last remaining minute of the first half. He was not moving spritely and it showed.....and we did a good job of taking advantage of it.
He had the flu? I vividly remember thinking he looked kinda sick when they showed a close up...I thought maybe the game was just getting to him! Hey, no sympathy from Houston, we had to sit and watch Tracy McGrady be just healthy enough to suck at basketball for years while making millions. At least dude has some chops, Dalton is going to be a good QB for years.
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