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Old 12-28-2011   #21
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I'm not sure I'd change my mind about Kubiak if he wins a game or two in the playoffs. Don't get me wrong, I want the man gone, but I'll be cheering like hell for him to win. Being a Texan fan rises above disliked or beloved players/coaches/GM/owner. I used to cheer for the Oilers while I hated Bud Adams. I can cheer for the Texans while wishing Kubiak gone.
I also wanted Kubiak fired 2 years ago after the 2009 season, but last year understood McNairs decision to keep him going into the 2010 season with all of the CBA uncertainty. Now I say let this season play out before we start hollering for his scalp again. Could be I'll be in the crowd hollering the loudest if he bungles the last 2 games ?
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Yes, seriously. Football is the opposite of our court system where you are innocent until proven guilty. In football, you are crappy until proven good. Kubiak has had one good year (this one), and he wouldn't have had that without Wade Phillips. He's still a crappy head coach.

He may be less crappy than he used to be, but that doesn't mean he still isn't worthless.
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Let's not get emotional about it.
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I just can't help considering which is the anomaly:

A) having the owner hire a key part of Kubiak's staff for him (which resulted in a strong defense) + an easy-peasy schedule = playoffs

B) having Kubiak hire his own staff + a tougher schedule = mediocrity
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I just can't help considering which is the anomaly:

A) having the owner hire a key part of Kubiak's staff for him (which resulted in a strong defense) + an easy-peasy schedule = playoffs

B) having Kubiak hire his own staff + a tougher schedule = mediocrity
Mediocrity is over. He could hire me; it's over.
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I just can't help considering which is the anomaly:

A) having the owner hire a key part of Kubiak's staff for him (which resulted in a strong defense) + an easy-peasy schedule = playoffs

B) having Kubiak hire his own staff + a tougher schedule = mediocrity
If Wade doesn't come back next year, we find out real quick.
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If Wade doesn't come back next year, we find out real quick.
Wonder which thread gets most posts?

Wade Phillips moves on

Mario Williams moves on

Kareem Jackson continues to start

Kubiak says 2011 was "on me"
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If Wade doesn't come back next year, we find out real quick.
Just imagine Kubiak doesn't come back next year, for whatever reason.

I think one of the main reason for Wade to take this defense from worse to first, is because of the Talent we had been stockpiling on defense. We're loaded with 1st rounders, 2nd rounders, former 1st & 2nd rounders, with the occasional 4th rounder thrown in there.

Who are we going to get to turn our offense into an elite unit? We've got a 1st round WR, 1st round LT, 2nd round RB, a few thirds & whatever else we could find.

I know Arian is going to be Arian. But how well is our line going to look if we change to a power O team? (like Wade did going from a 4-3 to a 3-4). Our TEs won't work in a traditional system.... neither are blocking types.

2 draft picks & 2 FAs..... would that be enough for the transformation?
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If Wade doesn't come back next year, we find out real quick.
I really want to see this defense after a full off season and another draft / FA period.

Of course, Wade has to be here for that to happen. It's tough to sorta' root against a guy that you admire so much, but that's the way I feel about Wade taking a HC gig somewhere else.
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I really want to see this defense after a full off season and another draft / FA period.

Of course, Wade has to be here for that to happen. It's tough to sorta' root against a guy that you admire so much, but that's the way I feel about Wade taking a HC gig somewhere else.
So DB, if Wade went to the Jags as head coach and proceeded to kick our ass twice a year for the next five years, would you still love him?
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So DB, if Wade went to the Jags as head coach and proceeded to kick our ass twice a year for the next five years, would you still love him?
Well, if he did, that would certainly answer a lot of questions being debated in a lot of threads on this MB now wouldn't it?...LOL

I can say this, I'm wishing the best of luck to the Houston Texans organization for the rest of this season and into the play-offs whoever the best coach is and regardless of which coach or players are responsible for the success.
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So DB, if Wade went to the Jags as head coach and proceeded to kick our ass twice a year for the next five years, would you still love him?
Nope. I suspended my liking for him once (Dallas), and I can do it again!!

I may have low standards, but standards nonetheless.
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If nothing else, I think 99% of us can agree that Kubiak does not deserve an extension.
He will get one though.
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Just imagine Kubiak doesn't come back next year, for whatever reason.

I think one of the main reason for Wade to take this defense from worse to first, is because of the Talent we had been stockpiling on defense. We're loaded with 1st rounders, 2nd rounders, former 1st & 2nd rounders, with the occasional 4th rounder thrown in there.

Who are we going to get to turn our offense into an elite unit? We've got a 1st round WR, 1st round LT, 2nd round RB, a few thirds & whatever else we could find.

I know Arian is going to be Arian. But how well is our line going to look if we change to a power O team? (like Wade did going from a 4-3 to a 3-4). Our TEs won't work in a traditional system.... neither are blocking types.

2 draft picks & 2 FAs..... would that be enough for the transformation?
I understand Mike Sherman is looking for work...
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I just repped you in another thread. JUst repped you.

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Does anyone see McNair firing a coach he personally likes who lost two QB's and his only real WR? I don't.
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I just repped you in another thread. JUst repped you.

If I knew then what I know now.

That's why I'm hiding...


If Sherman shows up on Kirby again, I'll help you gather up the torches and pitchforks to go storm the place.
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Until Kubes can coach 4 quarters of all out, take no prisoners type football, he is not really the kind of coach we need. You can call people trolls, or bad rep them all you want on a forum, but it doesn't change the facts that he coaches way too conservatively. He coaches to not lose games, instead he should coach to win games.

Until he does this, he is a mediocre HC, with tons of talent and a fantastic DC. That does not make him all that high on my "Great Coaches" list. He can do quite a bit to help that by how he coaches our next 2-5 games
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Can we get the trolls out of here please mods?


Until you can show some posts in the last week where anyone on this site suggested to fire Kubiak because they lost to the Colts, than STFU!!

Bring some substance into the thread or something meaningful, but for crying out loud stop trying to bring this site down by creating lies about what other posters have stated or what their arguments have been. Point it out and show all these posters that have advocated this in the last week if you're going to keep on with this chicken shit agenda of calling other people poor fans because they don't agree with your "sunshine on everything" agenda at all costs with the Texans.
I didn't really sense any trolling..
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