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Old 12-25-2011   #21
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Tell me where I discredited Wade. Don't worry, I'll wait. I say both coaches are valuable, and that, somehow = discrediting Wade.

Ahh, Texan fans...always going full Aggie on me.
"Discredit" implies that you're trying to take credit away from him... Implying that he didn't have anything to do with the players we picked up is trying to take some credit away from him. Implying that Gary Kubiak has had just as much to do with our success this season when he hasn't is trying to take credit away from him. What am I missing here?

And no... I didn't go full "Kubiak" on you either
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"Discredit" implies that you're trying to take credit away from him... Implying that he didn't have anything to do with the players we picked up is trying to take some credit away from him. Implying that Gary Kubiak has had just as much to do with our success this season is trying to take credit away from him. What am I missing here?

And no... I didn't go full "Kubiak" on you either
I said they were both valuable. How much or otherwise never came from my keyboard.
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There's something else Gary Kubiak is not....... Chuck Noll or Tom Landry.
Metioning Gary in the same post as a HC on par with Landry/Noll = LMAO.
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I would not want Wade as HC but Gary should be shown the door along with Rick.
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I said they were both valuable. How much or otherwise never came from my keyboard.
So than what's your gripe with this thread, because technically Gary (the O.P. not the coach) never said Kubiak had no value....he simply said Wade was more valuable. Kubiak has some value, he just isn't close to being as valuable as Wade. He'd be on his way to his 7th straight non playoff season and would be out of a job without Wade Phillips. If we sign Kubiak to a extension he should give Wade half his money.
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Take off the blinders and you'll see what I mean this is not the SAT.
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That is just all there is to it IMHO. What do you say?
Impossible to disagree.
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Metioning Gary in the same post as a HC on par with Landry/Noll = LMAO.
You sure about that ..... ?

Landry was 25-53-4 in his first 6 years,

Noll was 43-40-1 in his first 6 years,

Kubiak is 47-48 in his first 6 years.
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So than what's your gripe with this thread, because technically Gary (the O.P. not the coach) never said Kubiak had no value....he simply said Wade was more valuable. Kubiak has some value, he just isn't close to being as valuable as Wade. He'd be on his way to his 7th straight non playoff season and would be out of a job without Wade Phillips. If we sign Kubiak to a extension he should give Wade half his money.
I think that WAS what he was implying. "Get rid of Kubiak/Smith" says that to me. But that's neither here nor there.

Sad that we'll have to hear this all off-season, even if ULTIMATE success is achieved.
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You sure about that ..... ?

Landry was 25-53-4 in his first 6 years,

Noll was 43-40-1 in his first 6 years,

Kubiak is 47-48 in his first 6 years.
Different times

Different scheduling format

No FA

Most teams can be turned around in4 yrs. Yet here Gary is losing to a 1 win team on national TV 6 yrs later.
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You sure about that ..... ?

Landry was 25-53-4 in his first 6 years,

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Different times

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Most teams can be turned around in4 yrs. Yet here Gary is losing to a 1 win team on national TV 6 yrs later.
Exactly right.

And, by the way, Noll won his first Super Bowl in his sixth year.
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What are you, a crowd follower?
Would you be so kind to post a real opinion? Thank you so much.
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Different times

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No FA

Most teams can be turned around in4 yrs. Yet here Gary is losing to a 1 win team on national TV 6 yrs later.
Myopia.


Let's hire Jeff Fischer or Bill Belichick.

Fischer was 45-41 in his first six seasons,

Belichick was 41-55 in his first six seasons.
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That is just all there is to it IMHO. What do you say?
That's not all there is to my man! Ummm, Wade is good at defense. Gary is good at offense. Gary can't run a defense and Wade can't run an offense. This tag-team is the definition of what Co-Head coaches should be. Unfortunately, there has to be one guy that is named "head" coach, which would be Gary since Wade had a gig at the time the Texans fired Capers...
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Yes, I think Wade is more valuable than Kubiak. I also think Wade and Gary together make a great HC. As long as Wade returns next year, Gary is ok with me. Gary, until the last two weeks, has kept a team going who has lost 2 QBs and the only WR they have that can handle a long pass consistently. That can't be easy. This doesn't mean I think Gary by himself is the greatest, great or even halfway good as an HC. I think the combination of Gary and Wade could take us to the SB - if players and both coaches remain healthy.

When is Wade coming back?
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...I also think Wade and Gary together make a great HC.
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Myopia.


Let's hire Jeff Fischer or Bill Belichick.

Fischer was 45-41 in his first six seasons,

Belichick was 41-55 in his first six seasons.
Belichick's first gig in Cleveland was 5 years and that was before the current/modern era of free agency. Even so, he won his first playoff game after his fourth season.

He won the Super Bowl his second year with the Patriots (his seventh season all together). Turned them around and put rings on their fingers after two seasons.

And Jeff Fisher? Jeff Fisher sucks.
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You mean like you?

"That is just all there is to it"

worthless thread due to a worthless post.
Don't ever **** with my man Gary!!! EVER!!! I miss disagree with some of his posts... That said, NEVER suggest anything Gary does is "worthless"!!
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"Discredit" implies that you're trying to take credit away from him... Implying that he didn't have anything to do with the players we picked up is trying to take some credit away from him. Implying that Gary Kubiak has had just as much to do with our success this season when he hasn't is trying to take credit away from him. What am I missing here?

And no... I didn't go full "Kubiak" on you either
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