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Old 12-23-2011   #61
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Difference is...when we were faced with a 3rd & 8 we threw the freaking ball in that game. In this game we just handed it off. In passing situations, we passed the buck. As far as that Atlanta game, this game was a lot more comparable to the Jacksonville game. The cuffs were put back on and if you're going to put the cuffs on then pull Yates. Like I said in the game thread. If you aren't going to trust Yates to make throws against a 3-11 team or a 1 and 13 team, than you might as well put in Jake Delhomme.
It amazes me at how weak a coach can be to hand the ball off on 3rd and long or anything past 1 or 2 yards. I just can't fathom that unless you're inside the 5 yard line or something like that. That was what bothered me more than anything when Kubiak first got here in his first two seasons. He always played not to lose and would handcuff Carr/Schaub/Sage when he had everything to gain, because the Texans weren't even supposed to be winning a lot back then. I never understood why he coached like that. This is the same situation now where you'd think that from a logical standpoint that he'd let TJ air it out to see what he has and to play balls out since we're expected to struggle on offense any way with the rookie.

This is also the same mind set from a coach that can't make himself watch the last plays of close games because it's to traumatic for him. People can brush that kind of stuff off all the time, but it speaks about the guy's character as being soft and lacking toughness and confidence when you can't even watch your team play and you're the damn head coach.
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You’re playing with a rookie fifth round draft pick at QB.

Your only deep threat receiver is out injured.

Injury forces you into playing a back up O lineman for the first time this year.

You have one of the best tandem of RB’s in football.

Your D has been playing lights out for several weeks.

Yes, you play it close to the vest and rely on your D, its not rocket science.

Your plan is working to perfection in spite of your D being screwed out of their best plays.

Watts p.f penalties were bogus.

Then the refs decide to give the Colts 12 shots at a score inside the five yard line.

(If my memory serves me right they got 1st and 10 three times?)

Yeah..It’s all on Kubiak.


He's handing it off on 3rd and 8. There's "playing it close to the vest" and then there's what happened last night.

Oh and don't feel the need to go out of your way and make excuses for him...afterall he's the man who said he's not going to change the game plan and he just needs to get Yates ready (and then he changed the game plan and his butthole puckered up against a 1-13 team). LOL, he also said "it's on him" ... So don't feel the need to make excuses for Mr. Turtle ****
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The guy was only allowed 16 pass attempts and how many were designed screens? lol, it's amazing how when we played against teams we weren't expected to beat (like Atlanta and Cincy on the road) we pretty much ran the same plays that we ran with Schaub (played to win), but when we played against teams that everybody expected us to beat handedly (Carolina at home and a 1-14 team on the road) Kubiak "turtle headed" (for lack of a better term...see O.P. post)

coincedence...I think not. Conservative Kubes has coached the last two games like they were already in the bag....and he's lost them both. We basically took the ball out of Yates' hands the same we we took the ball out of his hands during the Jags game that he was forced into relief.
I think it depends on how the game is going. Matt was 11-15 in a win against the Bucs.

We had the lead in this game for 58:04

coincidence?
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I think it depends on how the game is going. Matt was 11-15 in a win against the Bucs.

We had the lead in this game for 58:04

coincidence?
The Bucs couldn't stop any runs at all....Arian AND Tate went off. The Colts were actually able to stop Tate. Also with Matt in there, the playbook was wide open against the Bucs...it wasn't open during this game.
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Good teams don't give the refs a chance to decide the game.

Players need to pull their heads out and right the ship.
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The Bucs couldn't stop any runs at all....Arian AND Tate went off. The Colts were actually able to stop Tate. Also with Matt in there, the playbook was wide open against the Bucs...it wasn't open during this game.
Arian ran for 6.9 ypc last night.
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Arian ran for 6.9 ypc last night.
Yeah he did....and?

Was the playbook fully open to capitalize off that performance and did Tate also go off? The Colts stuffed the hell out of the run when they needed to...unlike the TB game where every run was picking up plus yardage, the majority of the yards he were able to get last night came off just a couple of big plays...the running game last night was misleading, it doesn't even compare to what we did to Tampa. The TB and Colts games aren't really comparable just due to the fact that the play calling was totally different and the rushing production was also different. I'm pretty sure scared Gary isn't going to ask Schaub to hand it off on 3rd and 8.
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