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Old 12-05-2011   #21
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The football gods had pity on us and our punter blew his knee out instead of Cush. Which injury made your heart stop, Cush being helped off the field or Hartmann? Maybe the football gods think we've sacrificed enough blood and bodies for one year.
Actually it was both for me. I really felt bad for Hartmann when I saw him just laying on the field, actually my first thought was that he hit someone and knocked himself out...

I guess we'll keep losing one player per win...so who's next?
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Actually it was both for me. I really felt bad for Hartmann when I saw him just laying on the field, actually my first thought was that he hit someone and knocked himself out...

I guess we'll keep losing one player per win...so who's next?
Losing a punter has nowhere near the impact of losing The Terminator. Cushing is NOT a linebacker. He's The Terminator.
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Not only did he punt, but he kicked off. As now the team has to deal with Rackers kicking off the rest of the year. Here's looking at 2012 for Hartmann!
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Non contact ACL injuries are common.........in fact 70% are non contact. One of the main theories of mechanism is that the quadriceps causes an anterior vector (pull) on the knee, stressing and potentially disrupting the ACL, whereas the hamstring causes a posterior vector (pull), thereby protecting the ACL. However, when the knee is in 10- 30 % flexion and the foot forcefully hits down in that position in full out sprint, if the quad force/strength is inordinately greater than the hamstring....the tibia is violently forced forward......tearing the ACL..............and who on our team probably has the most powerful quadriceps muscles............and is not used to all out sprinting????????


VERY good point!

So, when coaches biach about punters & kickers tackling, it might not be a case of them wanting the punter/kicker to stay out of contact as much as it is avoiding them running around hurting themselves?

Crazy really that your ACL self destructs...
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Losing a punter has nowhere near the impact of losing The Terminator. Cushing is NOT a linebacker. He's The Terminator.
Not that I want to enter 'who's the most expendable player on the roster' talk, but hangtime & field position is a big deal, especially now with an offense that might be a bit less successful then with Schaub at the wheel.

In other words, punters are pretty damn important!
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Not that I want to enter 'who's the most expendable player on the roster' talk, but hangtime & field position is a big deal, especially now with an offense that might be a bit less successful then with Schaub at the wheel.

In other words, punters are pretty damn important!

It's importance has been really emphasized during our long periods of poor coverage team performance.
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Not that I want to enter 'who's the most expendable player on the roster' talk, but hangtime & field position is a big deal, especially now with an offense that might be a bit less successful then with Schaub at the wheel.

In other words, punters are pretty damn important!
I didn't say punters weren't important. I said losing a punter isn't as big a loss as losing one of your starting inside linebackers, who happens to be on a helluva roll this year. Maybe the football gods took pity on us and took Hartmann instead of Cush. They might've took pity on us when took Leinart also. Yates looked pretty OK in 6 quarters of work.
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