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Old 12-04-2011   #21
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Where is Derrick Mason? Where is Bryant Johnson?

Why do we pick up WRs like those two guys and just almost completely ignore them on the field during a game?

I was Jacoby Jones' biggest advocate on here to begin the season, but the guy is careless on his route running (he's had SOME good games at it, though) and I just don't trust him in must-have, gotta'-get situations.

I suppose Owen Daniels and a sprinkling of Kevin Walter is our only legitimate receiving threats? This is not going to hold up well later on in the season or playoffs.

This team has to get Mason and Bryant Johnson catching passes and being contributors in games.
yeah i agree, i have watched maso when he has been on the field and i think he could be a big factor come late in the season. He runs good routes, he is still pretty quick and he is big and physical. I also think Bryant Johnson could help us, but they seem to keep the 2 out of the offense as much as they can.
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Where is Derrick Mason? Where is Bryant Johnson?

Why do we pick up WRs like those two guys and just almost completely ignore them on the field during a game?

I was Jacoby Jones' biggest advocate on here to begin the season, but the guy is careless on his route running (he's had SOME good games at it, though) and I just don't trust him in must-have, gotta'-get situations.

I suppose Owen Daniels and a sprinkling of Kevin Walter is our only legitimate receiving threats? This is not going to hold up well later on in the season or playoffs.

This team has to get Mason and Bryant Johnson catching passes and being contributors in games.
Agreed!
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it didnt look like the falcons were doubling him either, every time i saw him he was 1 on 1 except that last play when he got hurt.
He hadn't reached beast mode yet. If he would had lasted to finish the game, he would have had been doubled.
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I am a bit concerned with the lack of James Casey in the receiving game since he's returned. He can be a nice security blanket for TJ.
While rehabbing from a pec injury, it is difficult AND potentially hurtful to fully stretch the muscle which is required to go up or stretch out for balls. Same goes for pulling a ball into his body against the resistance of a defender. All good ways to reinjure........all necessary for being a receiver. That can also account at least in part for lack of strength to block, which requires all out pec strength for pushing the defender off, which also increases change of reinjury.
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I mean...we are playing for home field advantage in the playoffs...every game now is like a playoff game. I don't want to sit AJ if he doesn't have to sit...Why would we sit the best receiver in the game if the docs clear him?
That's what has already gotten him in trouble.
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That's what has already gotten him in trouble.
You always seem to be dead on the money when it comes to these things...with what you know about AJ's hammy....would you have advised the coaches to sit him the last two weeks?
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You always seem to be dead on the money when it comes to these things...with what you know about AJ's hammy....would you have advised the coaches to sit him the last two weeks?
Quite frankly, we're looking at a potential ticking time bomb the way I hear it.

Andre Johnson's other muscles and ligaments that surround the area of his right hamstring will now be forced to carry a heavier load as he uses that leg during plays.

Pretend you have your brand new Toyota Tundra pickup suspended 5 stories above the ground...it is held in mid-air by three or four heavy-duty chains. Now imagine that one or two of those chains SNAP and you're down to only having maybe 2 chains left to hold it. Can the remaining chains hold up? What if the wind gets up to 60 mph, and you got your truck spinning and jerking back and forth 5 stories above ground with two chains holding it.

Probably a bad analogy, but the point is that Andre Johnson is beginning to have durability issues. For me, that freaking TURF system in Reliant is causing these lower body injuries. Cushing today, Hartmann today, Andre today, and Andre earlier this season...all that happened on OUR turf and every play our guy was untouched. Sucks.
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You are right...it does suck. I have never seen so many players go down untouched...not good especially this season.
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You always seem to be dead on the money when it comes to these things...with what you know about AJ's hammy....would you have advised the coaches to sit him the last two weeks?
Probably. But when studies mention return to play, it takes for granted an appropriate time for total rest and a reasonable graduation of re-introduction to activity. The body can heal only so fast. The body can be pushed to heal only so far. Even a superman performer like AJ has healing timeline limitations that if misplaced in "superhuman" category will probably eventually one way or another take him back to square one.
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AJ needs to talk with Isaac Bruce of the 99 Super Bowl Rams for tips on his hammy issues:http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...16/1/index.htm


Fifteen minutes before the biggest game of his life, Isaac Bruce put his foot down—squishing a fallen orange pylon in a corner of the Trans World Dome's south end zone while giving his delicate right leg one last stretch before show time. Then Bruce, the St. Louis Rams' explosive and emotive wideout, heard what he later described as a "click, click, POP" and felt a sharp burn in his right groin. His stomach dropped, and for the next few minutes Bruce descended back into the sore-hamstring hell that plagued his 1997 and '98 seasons, purging him from the ranks of the league's elite receivers and threatening his athletic identity. He walked gingerly through the tunnel, grabbed a cell phone from his locker and entered the training room in search of something to heal him.

Just as no hoopster will ever replicate Michael Jordan's greatness, NFL receivers can forget about trying to be like Ike. Bruce is a unique talent with a singular personality, an impudent iconoclast guided by an all-consuming faith in God. The treatment he sought for his injury before Sunday's NFC divisional playoff game against the Minnesota Vikings gave new meaning to the term alternative medicine. Rather than alerting St. Louis's medical staff to his condition, Bruce isolated himself in a small corridor and called his mother, Kairethiatic, back in his hometown of Fort Lauderdale. When she didn't answer, he started dialing up siblings—and given that Bruce has 14 of them, the odds were good he'd reach a live voice. Older sister Juliana Joseph picked up on the first ring. "Hey, I was just watching you on TV," she said from the living room of her Fort Lauderdale home. "What are you doing?"

"Pray with me," Bruce said, and he and Juliana immersed themselves in the first book of Peter, chapter 2, verse 24: "Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed."

Several minutes later Bruce stood on the Rams' sideline and watched the vaunted Vikings offense finish an 11-play, game-opening drive with Gary Anderson's 31-yard field goal. After the ensuing kickoff St. Louis took over on its own 23 and issued a swift and thunderous response. Quarterback Kurt Warner, who in 4� months has gone from being an anonymous backup to an American sports sensation, faked a handoff to All-Pro running back Marshall Faulk and threw a heavenly spiral to Bruce, who had run a post route from the left slot and was open in the middle of the field. Bruce caught the ball at the 50, sliced past flailing free safety Anthony Bass and zoomed untouched into the same end zone in which his groin had betrayed him earlier.
As he and several teammates celebrated with their Bob 'n' Weave dance, Bruce felt no pain, unlike the Vikings, whose agony had only just begun. Flaunting one of the most potent attacks ever assembled, the Rams, with Warner completing 27 of 33 passes to 10 receivers for 391 yards and five touchdowns, raced to a 49-37 victory and took several rapid steps toward the Super Bowl. Though St. Louis will face the league's most imposing defense when the Tampa Bay Buccaneers come calling for this Sunday's NFC Championship Game, the Rams have no intention of slowing down. "They'll have to score—a lot—to beat us," Bruce said after Sunday's game, in which he caught four passes for 133 yards, including an eight-yard slant that set up Faulk's pivotal one-yard touchdown run midway through the third quarter.

St. Louis appears to be on the fast track to its first Super Bowl tide, and for all the obvious catalysts—Warner, the NFL MVP, who threw for 41 touchdowns during the regular season; Faulk, who set a league record for most combined rushing and receiving yards in a season; NFL coach of the year Dick Vermeil; and offensive coordinator Mike Martz, who will take over for Vermeil in 2002—Bruce, 27, is at the top of the list.

Bruce's health means everything to the Rams. While Bruce missed 15 of 32 games due to recurring hamstring injuries in 1997 and '98, St. Louis hobbled to a 9-23 record. He approached the '99 campaign determined to prove his value to a large group of skeptics that had included, at times, his coach. "His pride, his ego and his career were on the line," Vermeil says of Bruce. "He made as concentrated an effort to remain injury-free as any player in football."
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Probably a bad analogy, but the point is that Andre Johnson is beginning to have durability issues. For me, that freaking TURF system in Reliant is causing these lower body injuries. Cushing today, Hartmann today, Andre today, and Andre earlier this season...all that happened on OUR turf and every play our guy was untouched. Sucks.

maybe it's not the turf, but something the training staff is or isn't doing. after all, i haven't seen nearly the same amount of lower body injuries from texan road opponents.
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maybe it's not the turf, but something the training staff is or isn't doing. after all, i haven't seen nearly the same amount of lower body injuries from texan road opponents.
The thing that I've noticed and has been bothering me is that right when the players hit the field for pregame "warmups," they begin their stretching exercises.
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