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Old 12-01-2011   #321
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Here's what you said earlier...


From that and the fact that everyone who has won a Super Bowl and is still playing is in your Elite class led me to believe that you had SB has one of your main criteria.

Eli's and Roethlisberger's stats are not as impressive as Schaub's.



3 of the last 4 years, the Texans have been in playoff contention late into December. Last year, we should have been except for an epically bad defense. Schaub has consistently put up stats.

You don't like him, fine. But you can't say he's not a good QB.
Again, where did I say winning a Super Bowl automatically makes you a better QB? You still haven't shown me...try again...

Eli and Ben have won games on their own. They have show the entire NFL their clutchness before. They've shown it to YOU.

Schaub is a good QB. He's good at game managing. But sadly, he won't take us where we want to go. His intangibles are severely lacking.

Had Schaub of been the type of QB Ben and Eli are, then we would of gotten into the playoffs those years. But he's not and we didn't.
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I am not a Schaub fan boy, but I'll take him over Romo any day.

I was a Cowboys fan for three decades, and Jerry's boy toy is nothing but a ribbed gunslinger with a pellet gun in his holster.
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Many of us Texans fans don't like it,
Well, first of all, I did not realize that you were a Texans fan with your picture and all. I figured you as a Tits fan or at the least, living in the past.

But, to each his/her own and all that jazz.

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Many of us Texans fans don't like it, but Romo is a better QB than Schaub. Period. Romo not only has better stats that Schaub, but has lead his team to division titles, playoff appearances, and has won games on with his own ability. All criteria Schaub has never met. I wish Schaub had some Romo in him.

And not just Tony, but Big Ben, Eli, Rivers,Vick, etc. They, along with the elite, and other QBs I mentioned previously are all better than Schaub and have done more to stake their reputations in the league.

To say Schaub is better than the QBs mentioned above, is just being a Matt Schaub fan boy and/or nut hugger.
Secondly, this is certainly a straw man argument. I never even implied that Romo was better/worse than Schaub.

I just disagree with your take that Romo is a "Top Tier" QB. Not based on my own bias against the Cowboys, but based on his history of epic chokes.

So you are free to continue to dilute your argument with needless fanboy/nut hugger jabs, because it appears more Don Quixote than a solid unbiased analysis on your part.
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Well, first of all, I did not realize that you were a Texans fan with your picture and all. I figured you as a Tits fan or at the least, living in the past.

But, to each his/her own and all that jazz.



Secondly, this is certainly a straw man argument. I never even implied that Romo was better/worse than Schaub.

I just disagree with your take that Romo is a "Top Tier" QB. Not based on my own bias against the Cowboys, but based on his history of epic chokes.

So you are free to continue to dilute your argument with needless fanboy/nut hugger jabs, because it appears more Don Quixote than a solid unbiased analysis on your part.
Texan fan through and through buddy, since the day it was announced that we got an expansion franchise, before we even had our name. And I was an Oilers fan way before. Just paying homage to our old team. NOT a Titans fan at all. One of the saddest and most angry days of my life was when that piece of shit Bud Adams announced he was moving the team. I still consider the Oilers as part of our Houston football history, and all Texan fans should too....

What you want to pick out 3 or 4 games in which Romo threw an INT and subsequently lost the game? Go ahead then. But news flash. Every QB has lost games on turnovers, including our very own and "precious" Matt Schaub. You know our history, I don't have to rehash it. But Romo has won far more for his team than he has lost and is a play maker with stats, division wins and playoff appearances. I have Romo with Vick and Rivers, right below Eli and Ben. I'm just giving an honest assessment. Didn't say you had to like it.
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Texan fan through and through buddy, since the day it was announced that we got an expansion franchise, before we even had our name. And I was an Oilers fan way before. Just paying homage to our old team. NOT a Titans fan at all. One of the saddest and most angry days of my life was when that piece of shit Bud Adams announced he was moving the team. I still consider the Oilers as part of our Houston football history, and all Texan fans should too....
'eh, I acknowledge my ***** ex-wife in my history but I don't keep pictures of her around...

That team is dead to me. The memories are alive, but those are of players and experiences. The franchise, though, is gone and cannot be extracted from the one you purport to hate.

You do realize that the Titans sport that logo these days, yeah?



So please excuse my confusion. It's tough to tell a Texans fan hiding behind a dead team or retro logo.

Hey, splitting hairs. We can agree to disagree, "buddy".

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What you want to pick out 3 or 4 games in which Romo threw an INT and subsequently lost the game? Go ahead then. But news flash. Every QB has lost games on turnovers, including our very own and "precious" Matt Schaub. You know our history, I don't have to rehash it. But Romo has won far more for his team than he has lost and is a play maker with stats, division wins and playoff appearances. I have Romo with Vick and Rivers, right below Eli and Ben. I'm just giving an honest assessment. Didn't say you had to like it.
I could care less about agreeing/disagreeing with you or liking/disliking your opinions.

When you quantify your own character with fanboy/nut hugger blasts when someone disagrees with your opinions, though, expect to be held accountable to your own low standards. Many folks consider that to be the very definition of trolling.

Interesting of your claim to be a Texans fan but continue to belittle our starting QB. But whatever floats your "precious" boat.
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What I said, and I'll repeat it again so that maybe it can stick this time, is that good QBs have their teams in playoff contention year in and year out. They have an "IT" factor. They win division titles. They get into the playoffs. Sometimes they have to lift their team up and win a game on their own. They are play makers. They win playoff games. They consistently put up stats. They pass the eye test.... And some of them win Super Bowls.
This doesn't sound like Romo.

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Many of us Texans fans don't like it, but Romo is a better QB than Schaub. Period. Romo not only has better stats that Schaub, but has lead his team to division titles, playoff appearances, and has won games on with his own ability. All criteria Schaub has never met. I wish Schaub had some Romo in him.
Has Romo ever done it with the 30th rank defense? or without a running game? With a rookie HC?

I like Romo. I don't think he's better than Schaub. I don't think Schaub is better than Romo.
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Texan fan through and through buddy, since the day it was announced that we got an expansion franchise, before we even had our name. And I was an Oilers fan way before. Just paying homage to our old team. NOT a Titans fan at all. One of the saddest and most angry days of my life was when that piece of shit Bud Adams announced he was moving the team. I still consider the Oilers as part of our Houston football history, and all Texan fans should too....

What you want to pick out 3 or 4 games in which Romo threw an INT and subsequently lost the game? Go ahead then. But news flash. Every QB has lost games on turnovers, including our very own and "precious" Matt Schaub. You know our history, I don't have to rehash it. But Romo has won far more for his team than he has lost and is a play maker with stats, division wins and playoff appearances. I have Romo with Vick and Rivers, right below Eli and Ben. I'm just giving an honest assessment. Didn't say you had to like it.
I think you forgot the botched "hold".



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Ummmm, No.
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Thank you for not starting another thread, & I'm glad he didn't either.
Haha. Yeah, I know. It's nice to have everything consolidated into one thread. I mean, around 3pm (maybe before) next Sunday, I'm sure this board will be sporting some "Yates Sucks" threads or there will be some blowing of the mighty trumpets threads.

Either way, this one won't be the last.

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I think you forgot the botched "hold".



But what do I know? I'm new around here.
Newbies. I guess ya just gotta put up with 'em.
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'eh, I acknowledge my ***** ex-wife in my history but I don't keep pictures of her around...

That team is dead to me. The memories are alive, but those are of players and experiences. The franchise, though, is gone and cannot be extracted from the one you purport to hate.

You do realize that the Titans sport that logo these days, yeah?



So please excuse my confusion. It's tough to tell a Texans fan hiding behind a dead team or retro logo.

Hey, splitting hairs. We can agree to disagree, "buddy".



I could care less about agreeing/disagreeing with you or liking/disliking your opinions.

When you quantify your own character with fanboy/nut hugger blasts when someone disagrees with your opinions, though, expect to be held accountable to your own low standards. Many folks consider that to be the very definition of trolling.

Interesting of your claim to be a Texans fan but continue to belittle our starting QB. But whatever floats your "precious" boat.
Having a different opinion is trolling now? Then by your standards you are a troll yourself and contradiction. The Oilers are a part of my childhood. The Texans are a part of my adulthood. Houston NFL football is a part of me and I will not let go of past memories or future memories the Texans will give me. I can hold on to those memories unlike you being able to hold on to a woman.

This is my team and reserve the right to criticize any part of our organization I don't like. Schaub will never get us where we need to go. He finally lost me when he threw the game against the Raiders away with that awful pick. I've seen too much of his body of work to know what he is. And I will not be prisoner of wishful thinking

If you could care less about what I think, why do you let what I say get into your head, leading you to fill your replies with bluster. That doesn't make sense. You don't make sense.
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This is the way I objectively see it....And in no particular order, just by class IMO

HOFers/Elite
Tom Brady
Peyton Manning(if he comes back healthy obviously)

The Elite
Drew Brees
Aaron Rodgers
Ben Roethlisberger

Top Tier/non-elite
Eli Manning
Tony Romo
Phillip Rivers
Mike Vick
Matt Ryan

2nd Tier
Jay Cutler
Matt Stafford
Matt Schaub
Joe Flacco
Mark Sanchez.
...and I don't care to rank the rest.

I would take every QB listed above Schaub in a heart beat. This is just a hypothetical, but I would also trade Shaub in a heartbeat for a young talent such as Cam Newton, Andy Dalton, and Sam Bradford. With our talent, thse guys could really shine on our team as they develop into top QBs I would also take Vince Young over Schaub.
You can stop now... We get it...

You've lost all potential credibility.
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With our talent, thse guys could really shine on our team as they develop into top QBs I would also take Vince Young over Schaub.
This qualifies for the most, absolutely dumbest, most ignorant and uninformed statement/posts ever on this message board (even rivalrying "Hulk75's" posts).

Oh, I forgot, ALL "Six" does is win!!
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