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Old 11-30-2011   #221
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Still looks like your chances of getting a "Starting QB" are better with 1st rounders.
If there's one thing that all of us should of learned by now is that most big hyped college QBs can't transition to the nfl. If you look at all of the nfls current starters you will see more than half were not high draft picks. And let's be honest a guy like tebow will not continue to have success.

I just think yates deserves a shot to be our future QB we all see that he has the tools, and the confidence seems to be there as well. Just saying don't write him off cause he's a fifth rounder.
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Perhaps a better way to look at it is to take a look at the current top 10 QBs by Rating this season:

1. Aaron Rodgers -- 1st round
2. Tom Brady -- 6th round
3. Drew Brees -- 2nd round
4. Tony Romo -- UDFA
5. Matt Schaub -- 3rd round
6. Eli Manning -- 1st round
7. Ben Roethlisberger -- 1st round
8. Alex Smith -- 1st round
9. Matthew Stafford -- 1st round
10. Matt Ryan -- 1st round

In the past 12 years, there have been 32 QBs taken in the first round. 6 of them are highly ranked right now.

Drafting a QB in the first round is a crap shoot.

Still looks like your chances of getting a "Starting QB" are better with 1st rounders.


Out of the 32 drafted in the first round - where are the other 26 not listed?
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Kind of a silly question; Does TJ get any kind of increase in pay going from 3rd to 1st team?
Not unless there were special incentives built into his contract.......which I would doubt would be the case in a 5th rounder that was not expected to be anything but a 3rd string QB.
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Not unless there were special incentives built into his contract.......which I would doubt would be the case in a 5th rounder that was not expected to be anything but a 3rd string QB.
Right, and I don't think that any draft pick has incentives either.
Unless the new CBA change things, that is!
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I tell you all, I'm excited about this kid and what he can do. Its going to be fun watching him take this team into the playoffs. I just have a good feeling about him and hope he can be our guy for the next 10 years.

I was never sold on "checkdown" Leinart, and Matt Shaub just has never proven to me that he has "IT".

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I tell you all, I'm excited about this kid and what he can do. Its going to be fun watching him take this team into the playoffs. I just have a good feeling about him and hope he can be our guy for the next 10 years.

I was never sold on "checkdown" Leinart, and Matt Shaub just has never proven to me that he has "IT".

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Exactly. He showed me way more than Leinart showed me, after Leinart had 2 weeks to prepare.
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I was never sold on "checkdown" Leinart, and Matt Shaub just has never proven to me that he has "IT".
Schaub is a good QB, in the ranks of the "very solid" but not the "elite", but I think he's pretty much "maxed out" -- pretty much hit his ceiling. I think what we've seen is the best we can realistically expect. We don't know Yates' ceiling yet -- could be lower, could be higher, and while I'm nervous about finding out here and now, I'm also anxious and even a little eager to find out. I did like what I saw at the end of the first half.
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Joe Giglio from the Charlotte Observer who covered TJ Yates in college at UNC joined Mike Meltser and they discussed TJ Yates and what to expect out of the rookie quarterback.
This guy was on Mike Meltser's show this morning, he had a lot of good things to say about Yates. It sure as hell made me feel a little bit better, lol.

Here is the audio.

BTW I'm all in with the kid, I even changed my avatar for the first time in years, lol.
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Here is an interview with him from last years combine. I like this guy, he has a great attitude towards life, and sounds very competitive.

TJ Yates - 2011 NFL Combine - Eastbay
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i'm gonna shed a tear if he overthrows someone downfield on sunday
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BTW I'm all in with the kid, I even changed my avatar for the first time in years, lol.
It looks the same as it always had......
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It looks the same as it always had......
Butthead is wearing at #13 jersey.
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Out of the 32 drafted in the first round - where are the other 26 not listed?
That was in the original post I was responding to. But here's the #1 list again, going back to 2000 (and it's only 31, I miscounted):

1. Cam Newton
2. Jake Locker
3. Blaine Gabbert
4. Christan Ponder

5. Sam Bradford
6. Tim Tebow

7. Matthew Stafford
8. Mark Sanchez
9. Josh Freeman

10. Matt Ryan
11. Joe Flacco

12. JaMarcus Russell
13. Brady Quinn

14. Vince Young
15. Matt Leinart
16. Jay Cutler

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18. Aaron Rodgers
19. Jason Campbell

20. Eli Manning
21. Philip Rivers
22. Ben Roethlisberger
23. J.P. Losman

24. Carson Palmer
25. Byron Leftwich
26. Kyle Boller
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Schaub is a good QB, in the ranks of the "very solid" but not the "elite", but I think he's pretty much "maxed out" -- pretty much hit his ceiling. I think what we've seen is the best we can realistically expect. We don't know Yates' ceiling yet -- could be lower, could be higher, and while I'm nervous about finding out here and now, I'm also anxious and even a little eager to find out. I did like what I saw at the end of the first half.
Shaub is good, at bus driving. He has never been the guy that can carry this franchise on this shoulders and beat teams on his own the way elite and other top tier QBs have/do. How many possible game winning drives have we seen end on a Schaub INT....way too many. That is why I hope Yates finds success, because I am done with Matt Schaub.

But you are right, we don't know what Yates is. But I'm excited to find out.
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Shaub is good, at bus driving. He has never been the guy that can carry this franchise on this shoulders and beat teams on his own the way elite and other top tier QBs have/do. How many possible game winning drives have we seen end on a Schaub INT....way too many. That is why I hope Yates finds success, because I am done with Matt Schaub.

But you are right, we don't know what Yates is. But I'm excited to find out.
I think Yates has the potential to he better than Schaub, but Schaub has led this team in game winning drives before. Let's not forget that. He has shown that he can be clutch.
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I think Yates has the potential to he better than Schaub, but Schaub has led this team in game winning drives before. Let's not forget that. He has shown that he can be clutch.
Exactly. While we all want Yates to do something now that we finally are getting to the playoffs, to throw the QB that helped get us there under the bus is a tad premature.
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I have no doubt that we will miss Schaub, especially if they make the playoffs.

However, since that's not going to happen, I'm happily hoping that Yates is The Man in my koolaide inebriated state. At this point, I just refuse to get negative until they do something stupid like lose the next 5 games.

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What was it before?
It was Schaub, I put it on there the day we traded for him.
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