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Old 11-27-2011   #41
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Kubiak will be back next year. As much as I want to see him gone, this has been a tough year for him and the entire coaching staff. Kudos to him for keeping the team together and playing well.
just wondering why ppl still want him gone at this stage when its pretty obvious we're one of the top teams in the league?

makes no sense to me
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Yates has it, i dont know what "IT" is but i see it in him.
I'm with you, even if we get dogged on for having no solid evidence or logical reason to believe it. I've let blind fandom take over at this point. I don't see any point for myself to feel discouraged or skeptical..
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Tssssss. Hell yes kubes is save saver then fort knox we can lose out and misss the playoffs and he will still be save due to. Both matts going down he gets a save me pass. Lol
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This is hunting season, not hatin' season - that begins in January.

I am enjoying what I am seeing. I am also enjoying the efficiency. Once the season is over it will be time to re-evaluate.
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just wondering why ppl still want him gone at this stage when its pretty obvious we're one of the top teams in the league?

makes no sense to me
I'm not one of those people, but..... what makes us one of the top teams in the league? 8-3?

New England will probably finish 13-3, 12-4.... something like that. Baltimore, Pittsburgh probably finish with 11 wins apiece.

If we finish 9-7, would you still think we're one of the best teams in the league?

I believe that's what it's all about. With TJ Yates pulling the trigger, we're not that 8-3 team. We might be better, chances are we're not... not even as good as that team. But we'll see.

IMO, the HC's job is all about the team, & all our wins have been team wins. The defense has only scored 7 points all year. They've helped the offense, short field, extra opportunities..... but it's been team wins all year long.

Kubiak has 5 games left (this season) if we go 2-3, we're still in the play-offs & we're still one of the better teams in the league. if we go 1-4 (9-7) miss the play-offs..... not so much.
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Every Kubiak season has featured at least one "1-4" stretch, so the jury is still
out on how good the 2011 season will ultimately be.

So far, so good though.
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Did we win today????? Reading some of these posts u would think it was Houston Oilers at Buffalo all over again.
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Here's my position:

Can you find a coach that is going to make a difference next year? That should be the question that always drives decisions like this. In my opinion a Cowher doesn't fix this team. He's a defensive mastermind. Last time I checked, we've got one of those. Who comes in and gets more production out of our offense? The thing is I don't know how you answer that question. There are some holes on this team but I don't think there are enough that you point at them and say well we definitely need to start over. Who do you go get? I'll be honest, if this is a 11 or 12 win team (which I believe we are) and we have to "endure" 3 or 4 10+ win seasons in a row, I'm ok with that.

Instead of "is this a playoffs or else" year, the question should be "Is there any coach that makes this team better than Kubiak does?" If the answer is yes then go get him. I don't think that answer is yes. Not unless you're going to blow the offense up.

Mike

I thought we were a 10 win team before the season. I think we were a 12 win team prior to Schaub getting hurt. This is a damn good team.
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At the same time, what would happen if we continue to win with Yates?

If we beat Atlanta, then Cincy, then Carolina, with T.J. Yates....... what then?

Will Kubiak earn his keep?
Yes.
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ha what bullshit. it wasnt cowhers or grudens teams either so, it was lebeau's & dungy's

wade's been an awesome pickup (despite what you see on TT, you dont have to be anti one guy to be pro another when they're on the SAME team!)

they're a nice foil for each other imo. wade knows defence and can put guys in position to suceed but his discipline hasnt always been the best whereas that has never been a problem since kubiak has been HC here
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No reasonable owner is going to hold a head coach to the standard of "you were bulldozing into the playoffs, but couldn't finish the deal with TJ Frickin Yates at the most critical position in sports."

Its just not going to happen. And for all the whining, Kubiak fields a damn good offense most Sundays.

Kubiak stays. And at this point, rightfully so. Reload, heal up and come back next year.
I'll tell you what... we hired Kubiak because he's a QB guru. This is crunch time for Kubiak and to get the rookie he selected up to speed with a week of practice. Difficult but isnt Kubiak supposed to shine in this area? So... this IS Kubiak's playoff stretch. He's 1-0 as of yesterday so I'm real happy so far. I don't think we've ever punted so much before yesterday but I am still happy. We won and we won convincingly.

I'm worried about Andre. What little I saw of him (and I watched hard), he looked plain. I'm afraid that Kubiak will be eating a Yates/Jones sandwich... as rotten as that is... Kubiak gets a pass. Bullshit. He is EXPECTED to pull out the win. It's all about results results results.
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I'm worried about Andre. What little I saw of him (and I watched hard), he looked plain. I'm afraid that Kubiak will be eating a Yates/Jones sandwich... as rotten as that is... Kubiak gets a pass. Bullshit. He is EXPECTED to pull out the win. It's all about results results results.
Are you expecting Kubiak to go 5-0 over the next 5 games?

I mean I do... I expect a good football team to win every game they play. As far as I'm concerned, we're better than every team on our schedule, other than Atlanta (but we play them at home).

I'm just trying to clarify this "bullshit" statement. I think we still win the division, is that what you are talking about, or do you think it would be "bullshit" if we don't win out?
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Are you expecting Kubiak to go 5-0 over the next 5 games?

I mean I do... I expect a good football team to win every game they play. As far as I'm concerned, we're better than every team on our schedule, other than Atlanta (but we play them at home).

I'm just trying to clarify this "bullshit" statement. I think we still win the division, is that what you are talking about, or do you think it would be "bullshit" if we don't win out?
No. I expect us to lose out and still make the playoffs. I think a lot of you are dismissing the Colts and Panthers a little too quickly. They will have Luck all locked up. Manning hasn't been IR'ed. Cam Newton is a playmaker and our offense became anemic. Seems like a bad combination all around for Kubiak. He must continue to produce results. Going 0-6, 1-5, or even 2-4 with a soft schedule ahead is NOT it.
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He must continue to produce results. Going 0-6, 1-5, or even 2-4 with a soft schedule ahead is NOT it.
Then you're basically saying the same thing everyone else is... just a little too much hate & negatism.

But I can guarantee you we won't go 0-6 or 2-4. I highly doubt we'll go 1-5 from here on out.

I'm not looking past anyone. We take each game one at a time.
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We only have 5 games left, not 6.

2-3 over the next five would not thrill me at all, but it's 10 wins and I say 10 wins keeps Kube's job in tact, especially under the circumstances.

Let's just get Rosencopter and win all 5!
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We only have 5 games left, not 6.

2-3 over the next five would not thrill me at all, but it's 10 wins and I say 10 wins keeps Kube's job in tact, especially under the circumstances.

Let's just get Rosencopter and win all 5!
I was counting our first round exit.
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At the same time, what would happen if we continue to win with Yates?

If we beat Atlanta, then Cincy, then Carolina, with T.J. Yates....... what then?

Will Kubiak earn his keep?
Not according to some. They want him gone any way they can get it.

If they havent given Gary any credit for getting the team to this point with the injuries they have already sustained .... they could bring home a Lombardi Trophy and these same people would still be flying their "Anybody but Kubiak in 2012" Sigs.

First two games the offense is without the leagues leading rusher from last season - They didnt miss a beat.

No J-Jo for the first game.

They lose Walter for a game.

They lose MW for the season and a rookie steps in and fills the void.

They lose D.Manning for 4 games , Nolan plays well in his place.

Next up .... Casey and AJ for 2 and 6 games respectively.

Get #80 back and lose #'s 8 & 11 .... the result a W with a 3rd string QB who protected a lead in the second half by making no mistakes while completing better than 50% of his passes after being the scout team QB all season and Leinart getting the lions share of the reps during the last week since he had to get up to speed.


Getting rid of Kubiak could very well be like losing Schaub for many - They arent satisfied with Schaub because he isnt Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady .... but he's better than all but a handful of QB's in the league. They'd rather be like Miami or The Redskins.

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While Wade has done a great job with the defense .... he does nothing for the offense ..... and he does answer to Gary at the end of the day. You are delusional.

8-3 with the #1 seed in the AFC after 11 games despite a ton of injuries to key players ..... a Lombardi wouldnt satisfy the "Fire Kubiak" crowd. Kinda remind me of the "Occupy" crowd who dont know what they want ....
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First off Kubiak aint going anywhere after this season, so that is that. Anyone who has any hopes of that still is just kidding themselves at this stage. Kubes will be back next season fellas.


This might surprise some people, but I'm okay with that going into next season. I don't think I've seen any team have this many key injuries to top players on one team as I've seen on the Texans this year. It's been just sad and depressing at this point once Leinart went down. Our season is officially over as far as a real playoff run goes. I think we'll make the post season, but we won't make any run at all considering what we'll have to work with at QB. I hate Kubiak and hae for years, but the Texans are 8-3 after all of these bad injuries and so for the first time in team history, I can honestly say that this is an over achieving team that I've been proud to watch this year. They've stuck their chest out through adversity and carried their weight like a real winning football team does. Can Kubiak sustain multiple seasons like that?? Probably not, and yeah that worries me, but there is no way that Bob Mcnair is going to fire him after this many key injuries. If he was fired, I don't think it would be unfair at all considering his 5 year history of failures, but Gary has done a good job with this team this season and Mcnair won't even consider firing Gary.
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Kubiak's job was safe before this game and it's safe now.

I've said it all season. McNair has built in excuses...errr....reasons. Lock-out, new DC, and from the beginning of the season, injuries.

We know McNair's M.O. after watching this franchise for a decade. This thread would not even exist if some folks just paid attention.

As for opinion of "should he be fire if [blank] happens", no. We've got a TEAM now that rallies, and we have some really positive momentum aspects happening that would be blown up if McNair fires the head coach. Regardless of how this season plays out, Kubiak should, and will, be here in 2012.
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