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Old 11-27-2011   #21
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I think Kubiak should keep his job this year regardless of the outcome from now on. The injuries to the team are immense but they have persevered. I can't be mad at him for much this year.
As much as I wanted Kubiak gone, I'm going to have to agree with this. When you lose your 1st and 2nd string QB, it's a tough road to climb out of for any coach or team. Luckly we still have Carolina and Indy on our schedule.

meh......at this point, we don't have a lot to debate about. We all know what's happening. All we can do is just watch the games and hope for the best. An 11-5 season is still not unreasonable if Yates responds to coaching. That's a big if, but still, it's possible.
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As much as I wanted Kubiak gone, I'm going to have to agree with this. When you lose your 1st and 2nd string QB, it's a tough road to climb out of for any coach or team. Luckly we still have Carolina and Indy on our schedule.

meh......at this point, we don't have a lot to debate about. We all know what's happening. All we can do is just watch the games and hope for the best. An 11-5 season is still not unreasonable if Yates responds to coaching. That's a big if, but still, it's possible.
Yates has it, i dont know what "IT" is but i see it in him.
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Kubiak isn't a great head coach regardless of playoff appearances, injuries or anything else.

He might be good. He's certainly average. But he isn't great.
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As much as I wanted Kubiak gone, I'm going to have to agree with this. When you lose your 1st and 2nd string QB, it's a tough road to climb out of for any coach or team. Luckly we still have Carolina and Indy on our schedule.

meh......at this point, we don't have a lot to debate about. We all know what's happening. All we can do is just watch the games and hope for the best. An 11-5 season is still not unreasonable if Yates responds to coaching. That's a big if, but still, it's possible.
Sometimes life doesn't work out the way we want it. Sometimes things just happen to us, fair or not.

McNair has been more than fair to Kubak. He would be within his rights to fire Kukbiak if we don't make the playoffs. The guy has been more than patient.
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Sometimes life doesn't work out the way we want it. Sometimes things just happen to us, fair or not.

McNair has been more than fair to Kubak. He would be within his rights to fire Kukbiak if we don't make the playoffs. The guy has been more than patient.
Kubiak is not getting fired at the end of this season no matter what happens now, we might as well just get used to that. The reason this team is so good this year is because of Wade Phillips defense can stop teams. Last year if we could have stopped teams we'd have probably been in the playoffs. I agree with and also wish that Kubiak would have been gone a long time ago. But it's just not happening. Might as well get used to it, kind of like what we have to get used to with our QB situation right now.

That's just the way it is. And I'm going to keep cheering them on no matter what happens.
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Kubiak is not getting fired at the end of this season no matter what happens now, we might as well just get used to that. The reason this team is so good this year is because of Wade Phillips defense can stop teams. Last year if we could have stopped teams we'd have probably been in the playoffs. I agree with and also wish that Kubiak would have been gone a long time ago. But it's just not happening. Might as well get used to it, kind of like what we have to get used to with our QB situation right now.

That's just the way it is. And I'm going to keep cheering them on no matter what happens.
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The douches on 610 just said that, even if we lose out and don't go to the playoffs that Kubiak deserves a pass.

Good lord. Will fans in this town EVER have any f-----g standards?



Man, believe me, for years now I have been in the same boat you are expressing and so have a lot of us for that matter. But I really think this is a different situation.

Now, having said that, should the team just collapse or quit, than I'm ok with booting Kubiak.

But what I think most of us are saying is this is not the "same old Texans" and I really don't see a collapse coming. Probably lose a couple more games than I would want now, but I don't see a collapse. Should the team come out and just look totally unprepared and bone head plays are called, then I think you see more people gravitate to your way of thinking that many of us have had before.
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Why wouldn't McNair use the injury situation as an excuse? Everyone else seems to be.

The more accurate question should be . . .

Should Kubiak keeps his job even if he does make the playoffs?

That's for all you "in spite of"s out there.
Even though I wouldn't keep Gary regardless. (I dont think Gary ever wins a SB even with Schaub)

I dont think Gary should be fired unless there's a complete collapse. 0-5,1-4.

If BoBBY hasn't fired Gary after four 5-7's in a row. I sreiously doubt this will be the yr he fires Gary. Remeber BoBBy makes excuses for not firing Gary. Atleast this yr he will have a legitimate excuse for keeping Gary.
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i think we will make the playoffs. might be a close shave now though. id agree that this was a SB team before the injuries. GB won last yr with injuries but they werent key injuries to a-rod, clay etc like we've had.

i think kubiak has eliminated most of the doubt that he can be a successful coach with the teams performance this year so i think hes safe. fairly incredible sequence of injuries we've had/having and the team is still winning
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i'm having trouble answering this one. it should be, but like TK said ... "but damn". kubiak built this team and it's currently 8-3, to fail would be catastrophic. however, i cant recall any team recently to have their 3rd string quarterback lead them into and/or through the playoffs. we just went from backup veteran "game manager" of a strong team to late round rookie trying not to screw up. i just dont know how to choose a side on this one.
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Yates has it, i dont know what "IT" is but i see it in him.
Agreed.

I think we are going to be pleasently suprised next week.

Now need to sign another QB. Garcia?



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i think we will make the playoffs. might be a close shave now though. id agree that this was a SB team before the injuries. GB won last yr with injuries but they werent key injuries to a-rod, clay etc like we've had.

i think kubiak has eliminated most of the doubt that he can be a successful coach with the teams performance this year so i think hes safe. fairly incredible sequence of injuries we've had/having and the team is still winning
Slow your roll, hoss. This is Wade Phillips' team and Wade Phillips' season.
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Kubiak is so not leaving. We are 8 - 3 after losing so many starters I've lost count. McNair is not about to fire Kubiak after a bizarre season like this. Kubiak will return.
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No reasonable owner is going to hold a head coach to the standard of "you were bulldozing into the playoffs, but couldn't finish the deal with TJ Frickin Yates at the most critical position in sports."

Its just not going to happen. And for all the whining, Kubiak fields a damn good offense most Sundays.

Kubiak stays. And at this point, rightfully so. Reload, heal up and come back next year.
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He's got more lives than an alley cat ....
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Kubiak will be back next year. As much as I want to see him gone, this has been a tough year for him and the entire coaching staff. Kudos to him for keeping the team together and playing well.
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Agreed.

I think we are going to be pleasently suprised next week.
This team has surprised the freak'n heck out of me all year long.

No reason next week should be any different.
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No reasonable owner is going to hold a head coach to the standard of "you were bulldozing into the playoffs, but couldn't finish the deal with TJ Frickin Yates at the most critical position in sports."
At the same time, what would happen if we continue to win with Yates?

If we beat Atlanta, then Cincy, then Carolina, with T.J. Yates....... what then?

Will Kubiak earn his keep?
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ha what bullshit. it wasnt cowhers or grudens teams either so, it was lebeau's & dungy's

wade's been an awesome pickup (despite what you see on TT, you dont have to be anti one guy to be pro another when they're on the SAME team!)

they're a nice foil for each other imo. wade knows defence and can put guys in position to suceed but his discipline hasnt always been the best whereas that has never been a problem since kubiak has been HC here
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ha what bullshit. it wasnt cowhers or grudens teams either so, it was lebeau's & dungy's

wade's been an awesome pickup (despite what you see on TT, you dont have to be anti one guy to be pro another when they're on the SAME team!)

they're a nice foil for each other imo. wade knows defence and can put guys in position to suceed but his discipline hasnt always been the best whereas that has never been a problem since kubiak has been HC here
It's been a team thing, all year.

We still have a top 10 offense, Wade didn't do that.
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