Article - Is Leinart better than you think by Bill Barnwell

[Rey]

Originally Posted by TexansBull

I fear the opposite - that he doesn't have enough confidence. I hope he doesn't have a "Brad Lidge" syndrom from what happened in Arizona.

You look at Seattle and he pulled back from the contract after he heard that Tavaris Jackson was going there. He knew the offensive coordinator was from Minnesota and didn't want to get caught up in a qb controversy. He wants to start, but it seems he wants to go into a situation that there will not be a qb controversy or he could get benched over favortism/ personality clashes instead of actual performance.

I think that Leinart coming back to Houston may have showed a sign of maturity. I can't see anyone being afraid to compete against Tavaris Jackson for a spot. Even if the offensive coord from Minny was on board, the head coach was Leinarts coach in college. The head coach and the QB are almost like father and son on most teams.

[Hervoyel]

Originally Posted by Rey

I think that Leinart coming back to Houston may have showed a sign of maturity. I can't see anyone being afraid to compete against Tavaris Jackson for a spot. Even if the offensive coord from Minny was on board, the head coach was Leinarts coach in college. The head coach and the QB are almost like father and son on most teams.

Indeed. I think Leinart has matured. At the same time I don't think anyone should be in a hurry to throw out the "internet gold" that is his checkered past. You throw this guys name in Google and click on "Images" and you've got a veritable cornucopia of stuff to work with.

He's going to have the best running game in the league, the best defense in the league, and the best WR in the league (in my humble opinion). I think the only thing he's missing right now is a really good nickname. "Lionheart" is just retarded. "Matty Hot Tub" just makes him another one of the many "Matty's" out there. He isn't just another Matty!

Sure, he's had to "grow up" and clean up his image to fit into the more family friendly NFL but to be honest after David "I'm a family man first" Carr and now Matt "Gomer" Schaub I'm looking at Leinart as maybe the most interesting QB this franchise has ever signed. He's like our version of Kenny Stabler.

I'm calling him "Time Machine" from now on. I don't know why. It has that hot tub connection and it just seems to work.

I need to crank out a sig pic for that. So many possibilities.....

[jtexas]

Originally Posted by TexansBull

I fear the opposite - that he doesn't have enough confidence. I hope he doesn't have a "Brad Lidge" syndrom from what happened in Arizona.

You look at Seattle and he pulled back from the contract after he heard that Tavaris Jackson was going there. He knew the offensive coordinator was from Minnesota and didn't want to get caught up in a qb controversy. He wants to start, but it seems he wants to go into a situation that there will not be a qb controversy or he could get benched over favortism/ personality clashes instead of actual performance.

I agree. Seattle would have been an Arizona part II.

I don't think his issues in Arizona were about skill either. Similar to Tim Tebow, a new coaching staff came in after Dennis Green picked him. Ken Whisenhunt immediately clashed with Leinarts attitude of being the starter after Whisenhunt himself was drafted late and had to grind to the top. Whisenhunt has never developed a successful young qb and has run through them like a train wreck. Matt Leinart, Derek Anderson, Max Hall, John Skelton and Kevin Kolb. I don't trust his evaluation of talent or coaching ability.

[welsh texan]

Originally Posted by Rey

I think that Leinart coming back to Houston may have showed a sign of maturity. I can't see anyone being afraid to compete against Tavaris Jackson for a spot. Even if the offensive coord from Minny was on board, the head coach was Leinarts coach in college. The head coach and the QB are almost like father and son on most teams.

I see this being a great opportunity for him, and just what he's been waiting for. (Although I'm sure no pro would enjoy the way his chance has come about, I'm sure that possibility was why he wanted to be here)

I've posted before about how I don't see anyone outside of Dre in our entire offense who isn't a product of the system to some extent or another. OD, Arian, Tate, Brown, Myers, all great fits for the system, but certainly benefitting from that when they start putting up top notch numbers.

Schaub is the same, and I honestly don't see that much difference in terms of natural ability between the two Matts.

Schaub has a good number of years running this O, he has the players tuned into him, and he had a far 'nicer' entrance into the league. Apart from those points, I don't see a lot of problems for Leinart.

So its just on Matty L to overcome those, I'm looking for him to step in and lead this team as if he was the QB all the time, we saw Schaub do that from day 1 when he came in here and it was a big factor in his early success, imho.

Hope I'm right.

[TexansBull]

Originally Posted by Rey

I think that Leinart coming back to Houston may have showed a sign of maturity. I can't see anyone being afraid to compete against Tavaris Jackson for a spot. Even if the offensive coord from Minny was on board, the head coach was Leinarts coach in college. The head coach and the QB are almost like father and son on most teams.

I wasn't calling his maturity into question. I was calling his confidence when playing in the game into question.

By pulling out of Seattle it could have been he has been there, done that, got that medal and didn't feel like going down that road again. Not because he was afraid of competition but because the team in afterthought looked weak and he wanted to go into a better situation talent wise and coaching.

And I know you have more football experience than I and can talk more intelligently on the subject, but the NFL is a business. Old relationships go out the window, sort of like Lendale White after he failed a drug test in Seattle. And I agree Matt showed that awareness and maturity but not signing in Seattle.

I am a Leinart supporter. I want him to be Lights Out good. But noone can say they know how good or bad he is going to be because he hasn't played a down for a couple of years. You can google all you want, but we are going to have to give him a few games to get adjusted. Just my 2 cents.

[Thorn]

Originally Posted by TexansBull

I am a Leinart supporter. I want him to be Lights Out good. But noone can say they know how good or bad he is going to be because he hasn't played a down for a couple of years. You can google all you want, but we are going to have to give him a few games to get adjusted. Just my 2 cents.

A good 2 cents worth I will say. Nothing we can really do now except wait, and hate Fat Albert.

I swear Fat Albert did that on purpose. The basterd.

[Rey]

Originally Posted by TexansBull

I wasn't calling his maturity into question. I was calling his confidence when playing in the game into question.

I understand that.

What I was saying was that him pulling out of seattle may not have been because of a lack of confidence but rather a growth in Maturity.

[Vinny]

Originally Posted by Rey

I understand that.

What I was saying was that him pulling out of seattle may not have been because of a lack of confidence but rather a growth in Maturity.

either that or our strip clubs...just sayin'