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Old 11-15-2011   #61
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Its the NFL not flag football guys get injured
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Brittle....are you crazy.....
How about the Jacksonville game where he gets hurt and goes to the locker room....then comes back out and finishes the game.....

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That has more to do with his mental toughness, motivation and tolerance of pain.

When I said brittle I mean his body seems to be more likely to break than other QB's.
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I really don't think it's possible for Schaub to be slower or less athletic. I'm still not sure why they can't stick a couple of pins in his foot and send him back out there for the playoffs.
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Why so flabbergasted? It's pretty obvious that the Texans and Schaub are exploring every possibility for a return by the playoffs. Unless you know something the rest of us don't know?

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According to Total QBR, Schaub has been an elite-level quarterback since the 2008 season. His 66.2 QBR in that time period trails only Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Rodgers and Drew Brees.
I don't think anyone would questions Schaub's numbers prior to this season. But, Matt has not played to an elite level in 2011.
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But, Matt has not played to an elite level in 2011.
Maybe because he hasn't needed to?
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Maybe because he hasn't needed to?
I can think of two or three games where the Texans needed more from Matt.
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I can think of two or three games where the Texans needed more from Matt.
And I can probably think of the same 2 or 3 games where the Texans could have used more from that #1 defense of theirs.

Good grief. If the man throws 15 passes a game for the rest of his life and they win by damn near 30 points....what the hell else do you want out of this man?
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He brought them back twice against the Saints BTW, and the defense didn't hold.
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He brought them back twice against the Saints BTW, and the defense didn't hold.
That 4th quarter pick thrown by Schaub (with the Texans in the lead) didn't help. You're right in that the Texans haven't needed an elite QB often this season. And they've rarely gotten elite QB play this year, as well. I don't see how that's arguable.
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And I can probably think of the same 2 or 3 games where the Texans could have used more from that #1 defense of theirs.

Good grief. If the man throws 15 passes a game for the rest of his life and they win by damn near 30 points....what the hell else do you want out of this man?
Defense has exceeded expectations this year. Matt has probably underperformed a bit.

Gotta give credit to other teams, and the saints have a good offense. Not to mention it was early in the season and the defense was a complete work in progress.

I haven't seen many Matt schaub sucks posts but its ridiculous that you can't post and discuss minor criticisms about him without folks putting up protective armor. He is not a shoe in hall of fame guy. He does have SOME flaws.
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I don't think anyone would questions Schaub's numbers prior to this season. But, Matt has not played to an elite level in 2011.
His career high 8.5 YPA and a TD:INT ratio of nearly 3:1 is pretty elite in my book.

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He is not a shoe in hall of fame guy. He does have SOME flaws.
there are only 2 shoe in hall of fame guys in the league right now. Brady and Forehead.

Brees and Rodgers still need to do a lot to even get into the conversation.

Rapistberger may ride his defense into the hall, but it won't be because he was great.

Schaub is in that second tier of guys after the HoFers that can carry an average team to the SB. He's a Kurt Warner caliber guy in my view.
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Schaub is in that second tier of guys after the HoFers that can carry an average team to the SB. He's a Kurt Warner caliber guy in my view.
Your opinion of schaub is certainly higher than mine.
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Defense has exceeded expectations this year. Matt has probably underperformed a bit.

Gotta give credit to other teams, and the saints have a good offense. Not to mention it was early in the season and the defense was a complete work in progress.

I haven't seen many Matt schaub sucks posts but its ridiculous that you can't post and discuss minor criticisms about him without folks putting up protective armor. He is not a shoe in hall of fame guy. He does have SOME flaws.
I don't see anybody saying he's a shoe-in HOFer. But I have seen more than a fair share of ridiculously picking him apart.

He threw for over 9,000 yards the last 2 seasons which only a handful of QBs have done, made numerous comebacks just last year that will never be because of the vomit they called a defense last year. And despite all those numbers, people complain because he doesn't win. Well, he's 7-3 and winning this year and now his numbers aren't good enough for you. What the hell?

Hell, he hits Jacoby on an 80 yard TD on the first freaking play of the game and people are on his ass about making JJ slow down to get it. Really?

That to me is just complaining for the sake of complaining.

Yeah he has flaws but who the hell doesn't? Nobody walks on water in this league (besides Tebow) including the HOFers. And even though there's probably 22-24 teams or so in this league that would take Matt Schaub in a freaking heartbeat, you've got people on this freaking MB saying Leinart can do just as good, if not better?

And since when is coming to the defense of Schaub, or anybody for that matter, ridiculous? Especially on a dumb ass thread calling him injury prone. People can get on here and slam the dude all day long and it's OK, but if someone has a differing opinion and defends him then it becomes ridiculous? Get real.
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Schaub is a good QB.

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Look on the bright side guys, we are getting that national attention some have been clamoring for............
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A few other notes on Schaub from ESPN Stats and Info, as he shifts into the background:

He had started 46 straight games for the Texans and entering Week 10 he was one of seven quarterbacks to take every snap.

After throwing a combined 27 interceptions in 2009 and 2010, Schaub had just six in 10 games this season, tied with Colt McCoy and Jay Cutler behind only Aaron Rodgers (three).

According to Total QBR, Schaub has been an elite-level quarterback since the 2008 season. His 66.2 QBR in that time period trails only Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Rodgers and Drew Brees.
So much for those "Schaub sucks" theorists!!! I'm not suggesting that Matt is anything special, but eff those that suggest Schaub was the problem with this team in the past.... Either misinformed or ignorant.
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Ya know, Leinart might know how to recuperate that foot.
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Ya know, Leinart might know how to recuperate that foot.
Matt could hook Matt up with a night of therapy in a hot tub with four hotties, sans Matt's wife (the ex-Falcon Cheerleader)??? AWESOMENESS!!!!... I'm in!!
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He threw for over 9,000 yards the last 2 seasons which only a handful of QBs have done
He is one of six to have done so and was on his way to another 4000 yard season even though according to some he wasn't really significant to our offense.
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