Matt Schaub - Injury Prone

[Texanfan4ever]

Haynesworth was the One who cheap shotted him that took him out that Yr! Can't stand that jerk!

[HOU-TEX]

Retarded thread, preciate it

[Kthx]

Originally Posted by IlliniJen

This thread needs to die in a fire.

GIFSoup

[NitroGSXR]

Originally Posted by Lucky

This topic will continue to be discussed. Locking threads won't stop that. Schaub has missed "significant" time in 3 of his 5 seasons in Houston. Injury prone? No, there are good reasons why Schaub has gone down. Brittle? Well, he ain't Brett Favre. But, you're right in that Matt has played through some injuries. Call me crazy, but I haven't given up hope that Schaub returns for the playoffs.

I have also not given up. The Texans' uncanny ability for being medically vague has left me hoping for the best. I might be a glutton for punishment but there are a couple things...

My brother is a local orthopedic surgeon's PPA. I broke my ankle two years ago. He took an x-ray of my foot and discovered that I had previously broken my foot not once but twice. So my going rate is 3 broken feet for me and only one put me down and that was the ankle. I never knew about the other two breaks. I remember being bothered by them when it happened but never took much notice to its severity. So... I am also wondering why they don't just put a boot on him and throw him back out there. Go to a tandem role with Leinart if need be. I'm not saying Schaub needs to nut up or anything. I still don't know the extent of his injury and his pain-level tolerances... I just hope he chooses to play football if the choice was left to him like Roethlisberger did.

As for the lisfranc rumors, I understand that LaCranfora is usually accurate with his reports but I will not hold ESPN as the holy grail. What DOES bother me is... why wait to see the specialists next week? Why not n-o-w? I don't get that one. I also don't think this is the first time the Texans have been slow to medically schedule something for...

[Big Lou]

Originally Posted by JamesBill

I believe Schaub is a great fit here, even more so with our new found defense, dual threat backfield, and a FB that can catch. I think he is very good to great when healthy.

The reality though, he is injury prone and brittle. He has been battlefighting a hip and shoulder injury all year which is why his throws have been off. Dude is not built to last, and now he will be even slower and less athletic with a stump foot.

No matter what you believe about his ability, he is on the wrong side of 30 and has missed 5 or more games in 3 out of his 5 years as a starter. Individually they seem like freak injuries, but it is now the rule rather than the exception.

So lets have you and every one else in this forum run a QB Sneak and then when your foot is pressing off the turf and your leg is extended we'll drop a 320 lb. D-Linemen on your foot and see how it holds up. Unless your bones are covered in Adamantium, something tells me your headed for a walking boot.

[DeMarCushPoll]

Originally Posted by Texanfan4ever

Haynesworth was the One who cheap shotted him that took him out that Yr! Can't stand that jerk!

Watching the replay from Sunday and it looks to me like fat-ass haynesworthless was the one that rolled up on him this time as well. Probably did it on purpose.

May his boat sink in the gulf with him on it!

[Big Lou]

Originally Posted by GlassHalfFull

If I was being honest, I would call you an *****. but the forum code won't let me.

Season Team G GS Comp Att Pct. Yds Avg TD Int Sck Sck Yrds Rate
2007 Texans 11 11 192 289 66.4 2,241 7.8 9 9 16 126 87.2
2008 Texans 11 11 251 380 66.1 3,043 8.0 15 10 23 149 92.7
2009 Texans 16 16 396 583 67.9 4,770 8.2 29 15 25 149 98.6
2010 Texans 16 16 365 574 63.6 4,370 7.6 24 12 32 226 92.0



He is 30 years old, not at all old for a qb. Check out his starts for yourself.

I saw what you did there. Rep.

[speedfreek]

The guy has been here for 5 years and only had 2 complete seasons.

He's 30 years old.

His completion percentage has dropped from 67.9 to 63.6 to 61.0 over the last 3 years. At this rate, he will be in the 50's next year.

This has occurred over a period of time where our running game has improved substantially along with the offensive line play. (better protection, more effective play action, etc.)

We are also facing potentially the easiest schedule in our existence, and the worst the AFC south has EVER been.

You can sit here and sunshine pump all you want, but the guy has lost a step and is averaging 12.8 games/yr in his time here with us. (it's really hard to go 12-4 if your starter misses a quarter of the season)

He also makes INEXPLICABLY boneheaded plays like throwing INT's to d-linemen on screens and having more batted balls than anyone with his height should ever have.. (that goes to his football "smarts")

But that's ok, I don't expect an aggie to know anything about good QB play. (McGee, Jerrod, Tannehill, etc. etc. etc.)

TJ

Originally Posted by GlassHalfFull

If I was being honest, I would call you an *****. but the forum code won't let me.

Season Team G GS Comp Att Pct. Yds Avg TD Int Sck Sck Yrds Rate
2007 Texans 11 11 192 289 66.4 2,241 7.8 9 9 16 126 87.2
2008 Texans 11 11 251 380 66.1 3,043 8.0 15 10 23 149 92.7
2009 Texans 16 16 396 583 67.9 4,770 8.2 29 15 25 149 98.6
2010 Texans 16 16 365 574 63.6 4,370 7.6 24 12 32 226 92.0


He is 30 years old, not at all old for a qb. Check out his starts for yourself.

[JamesBill]

Injury prone = tendency to be injured.

Originally Posted by Texanfan4ever

They all get hurt! He has played thru it all!

No they don't and no he hasn't.

Originally Posted by Señor Stan

Where is your Andre Johnson - Injury Prone thread?

If Andre Johnson plays the rest of the year, he will have missed 19 total games. That includes the two games they sat him for at the end of last season that he would have played if they mattered. If Schaub is out the rest of the reg season he will have missed 16 games. 16 vs 19 in almost half the time.

Originally Posted by HJam72

The one who's injury prone is Williams.

He has a ton of nagging small injuries so he is injury prone in that regard, but at the end of this season he will STILL have missed less games than Schaub even playing one more season. He was also shut down last year along with 'Dre

Originally Posted by Big Lou

So lets have you ...blah blah blah...covered in Adamantium, something tells me your headed for a walking boot.

Plenty of other QB's manage to not get knocked out for several games in a majority of their seasons played.

Originally Posted by Texanfan4ever

Instead of attacking Schuab , use your energy to get behind Leinert! He needs all positive energy! Stars were made like this! This is still our year !

Not attacking, just being honest. Also I am all over Leinart, check my recent posts.

[Rey]

Schaub has not been the picture of health since he's been here.

Compared to most pocket passing QB's he has watched the game from the sidelines or from home quite a bit...

I'm kind of surprised to see so many people angrily disagreeing like it's a completely ridiculous notion to say he is prone to being injured.

[beerlover]

He plays with a lot of nagging injury's so his list if probably far greater than Texans are letting on. Does he have an NFL body? No. Is he athletic? No, but he doesn't have to be to run an NFL offense, especially one tailor made that addresses both Matt's strength & weakness. They paid Matt Leinart good money to be his back-up. Leinart turned down even better offers because he liked Texan situation, now lets give him a chance to see if all the practice, evaluation & development pays off so Texans don't skip a beat.

[Kimmy]

It's because we're soft. *nodding*

[Double Barrel]

Originally Posted by Rey

Schaub has not been the picture of health since he's been here.

Compared to most pocket passing QB's he has watched the game from the sidelines or from home quite a bit...

I'm kind of surprised to see so many people angrily disagreeing like it's a completely ridiculous notion to say he is prone to being injured.

yeah, it's just conversation. I don't understand the hurt peepee thing, but I guess some topics are sacred because they can be so upsetting to some folks.

Should I move this thread to the NSZ since it's so controversial? [/sarcasm]

[JamesBill]

Originally Posted by Rey

Schaub has not been the picture of health since he's been here.

Compared to most pocket passing QB's he has watched the game from the sidelines or from home quite a bit...

I'm kind of surprised to see so many people angrily disagreeing like it's a completely ridiculous notion to say he is prone to being injured.

I think people have some crazy definition of injury prone. To be injury prone you don't have to be Chad Pennington with a Jeff Bagwell shoulder. To me injury prone just means you have a tendency, history, and significant probability of missing games.

Originally Posted by beerlover

He plays with a lot of nagging injury's so his list if probably far greater than Texans are letting on.

I am convinced his drop in accuracy is due to the hip and back injuries this year. Still I don't have a problem with his performance, I have a problem with how many games he has and will miss.

[Texaninlild]

We should add this to the dumbest threads of the year and take a poll.

[JamesBill]

Originally Posted by Texaninlild

We should add this to the dumbest threads of the year and take a poll.

Go ahead.

Put my other one in there also:

Schaub's health without Leach

[NitroGSXR]

Originally Posted by Rey

Schaub has not been the picture of health since he's been here.

Compared to most pocket passing QB's he has watched the game from the sidelines or from home quite a bit...

I'm kind of surprised to see so many people angrily disagreeing like it's a completely ridiculous notion to say he is prone to being injured.

Everybody has their definition of what injury-prone means. For me... injury-prone is when somebody frequently comes up lame. That is not Schaub (except for the time he limped up out of bounds). I'd definitely call Mario reaching out for air and tearing a pectoral is coming up lame. Injury-prone in professional football? Eh... those are the breaks.

[Rey]

Originally Posted by NitroGSXR

Everybody has their definition of what injury-prone means. For me... injury-prone is when somebody frequently comes up lame. That is not Schaub (except for the time he limped up out of bounds). I'd definitely call Mario reaching out for air and tearing a pectoral is coming up lame. Injury-prone in professional football? Eh... those are the breaks.

Why does everyone keep bringing Mario into this conversation?

Honest Question...

[Yankee_In_TX]

Originally Posted by aussie_texan

can't believe there is a thread on this.
That injury prone bulls**t was used a few years ago and that was because he coped some cheap shots in the back field. yeah he battles injuries through the year but u find me a player in the NFL who doesn't.
Schaub is not injury prone. his taken a lot of big hits and he gets up and gets on with it!

Jared Effing Allen.

I got mad when at half time last night Allen and Rodgers were talking and laughing together. I hate Allen.

Then, low and behold in the second half he laid a questionably cheap shot on Rodgers. So maybe he won't be so buddy buddy next time.

[Wolf]

Originally Posted by JamesBill

Go ahead.

Put my other one in there also:

Schaub's health without Leach

Add foster and Tate without leach