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Old 10-20-2011   #121
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Kubiak re-signed Carr and cut him 10 months later. Fail.
Kubiak hired two of the worst defensive coordinators in history, with no track record of anything much less success. Then held on to them out of some warped sense of loyalty for 5 years. Fail.
Kubiak and his crony, Smith, have had some of the worst defensive draft picks in history and not just in the 1st Round. Fail.
Kubiak has never met a big game he couldn't lose. Fail.
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I don't think Kubiak had a choice with Carr. I heard he stopped yelling at him after week 8 though.

I was for bringing him back last year but not this year.
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Take Calvin Johnson away from Detriot and they look a whole lot different. They spent a 2 on Titus Young...the Texans have minimal investment past the wr1.
my answers in bold. The injury excuse is just what it is...an excuse. Sure, AJ makes this team better, but if it is all on him or this team is no better than mediocre without him and cannot beat good teams ever...then this team just isn't a good team period.
Haven't we won games without Aj? We haven't won the last two without 'Dre, but it's not like we've never won without him. Heck, many here were thinking we had a shot against Oakland & Baltimore without him.

Many think we'll win @Tennessee without him.

If Aaron Rodgers went down today, is it fair to say the Packers won't win another game this season since they haven't done it this seasn, or should we wait to see?

Without Andre, I think this team can win the next three. If we do, I won't say that is any great testament to the coaching ability of Kubiak, it's an expectation.

Let's take a Ray Rice from the Ravens before half time & let's see if they win that game. Let's take Ray Lewis from them in the first Qtr & Torrey Smith in the second half of the next game & lets see if they win that game. Let them play the Saints in the third game & lets see how they do.

They'd be lucky to be 1-2 after that.
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Ok, TK. I always respect your knowledge but I was reading your posts as excuses for Kubiak. I know how much AJ means to the team, but us fans can't give Kubes a free pass due to injuries.

The Ravens loss was somewhat expected but at some point someone needs to be accountable for nearly 6 yrs of losing under this regime. If they can't win this year, they never will and if they don't win, heads must roll
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Ok, TK. I always respect your knowledge but I was reading your posts as excuses for Kubiak. I know how much AJ means to the team, but us fans can't give Kubes a free pass due to injuries.
I'm just trying to keep it real. Some of the Arguments are extremely good & can't be denied. That's why my argument to DexmanC is usually STFU.
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I personally (like Vinny I believe it was) think that says a lot about our team to "expect" to lose going in to Baltimore. If we don't think we have a chance to win... something is wrong. (Especially when we keep thinking we should have been 10-6 or better over the last three years running).

The Saints game I put on Kubiak more so than the Ravens game (which I put on Schuab). He decides to run the clock out against Miami with 14 minutes left in the 4th Qtr, but you take a 14 point lead in the 4th against the Saints with 9 minutes left & it's time to air it out?

Really?

I bet Dennison was beside himself.
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Kubiak, whether TK wants to admit it or not, will be the reason this team soars, stalls,
or plummets. At the end of every game, I hear "the offense shoulda done this,"
"the defense shoulda done that.". It is my duty to keep the focus squarely on the
sole person responsible for 2012: Ya boy Gary Kubiak.

Keeps excusing the obvious, and I'll be right here to display the truth again.
Year six, and there are STILL games you go into expecting to lose. You
don't see what's wrong with that?
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Kubiak, whether TK wants to admit it or not, will be the reason this team soars, stalls,
or plummets. At the end of every game, I hear "the offense shoulda done this,"
"the defense shoulda done that.". It is my duty to keep the focus squarely on the
sole person responsible for 2012: Ya boy Gary Kubiak.

Keeps excusing the obvious, and I'll be right here to display the truth again.
Year six, and there are STILL games you go into expecting to lose. You
don't see what's wrong with that?
The Team doesnt go into games expecting to lose. They go into every game thinking "We can win" ..... Every game.


Its the fans expectations you are talking about .... expecting to lose , predicting their record and listing what games we think they win or lose.
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Year six, and there are STILL games you go into expecting to lose. You
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What did I just say?

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The Team doesnt go into games expecting to lose. They go into every game thinking "We can win" ..... Every game.


Its the fans expectations you are talking about .... expecting to lose , predicting their record and listing what games we think they win or lose.
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and we have twos studs that need each other - AJ (of course and A Foster) to thrive

People just cant accept the fact that one has an impact on the other ....

I heard a question on talk radio a while back , who would you rather lose for an extended amount of time .... AJ or Foster .... We've lost both for a stretch already this season - Tate filled the void in place of Foster. No one has been able to replace AJ .... I think the question answered itself.


You think about the WR position and think - That guy only gets 8-10 touches a game , hows he so important , then you watch this team play without him on the edge and struggle to do a damn thing offensively and realize just how much attention the opposition gives him .... He's worth 50+ yards in the running game.




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In an ideal world .... our QB would be our best player ... Thats not the case on this team. Schaub is an average NFL QB.
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People just cant accept the fact that one has an impact on the other ....

I heard a question on talk radio a while back , who would you rather lose for an extended amount of time .... AJ or Foster .... We've lost both for a stretch already this season - Tate filled the void in place of Foster. No one has been able to replace AJ .... I think the question answered itself.


You think about the WR position and think - That guy only gets 8-10 touches a game , hows he so important , then you watch this team play without him on the edge and struggle to do a damn thing offensively and realize just how much attention the opposition gives him .... He's worth 50+ yards in the running game.






In an ideal world .... our QB would be our best player ... Thats not the case on this team. Schaub is an average NFL QB.
That's cause we passed up many a good young QB waiting for the frog to get kissed . Compared to him Schaub's Joe Montana . Compared to Joe , Schaub's average at best .
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That's cause we passed up many a good young QB waiting for the frog to get kissed . Compared to him Schaub's Joe Montana . Compared to Joe , Schaub's average at best .
Thats on Bob McNair .... Not Smith nor Kubiak (or even Capers & Casserly).

It took Kubiak "giving up" on the guy mid season to force a replacement .... Who's been better , just not better enough.
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Thats on Bob McNair .... Not Smith nor Kubiak (or even Capers & Casserly).

It took Kubiak "giving up" on the guy mid season to force a replacement .... Who's been better , just not better enough.
I guess my point is after a couple of years you can tell if it's going to happen . The powers that be drafted a QB in the 3rd in 2003 after taking Davy 1st overall , so what's that tell you . Like with Kubiak , Bob got to close to the help .
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Ellis.... are we patting ourselves on the back?

it is true though...
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Ellis.... are we patting ourselves on the back?

it is true though...
Na but i love to come back and see all the "Sky is falling" posts. Its funny
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